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Old 13-12-17, 09:48 AM
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What, if any, is the connection between the design of the 90 AGRA (TA) formation sign, the arms of Godfrey de Bouillon, crusader King of Jerusalem and the coat of arms of Antioch? I believe that HQ 90 AGRA (TA) was in Reading, Berkshire. Mike
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NL has the HQ at Newbury.

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The central cross is called a cross potent, potent is old english for a walking staff, and the four smaller ones plain crosslets in heraldry.
The Crusader Kings of Jerusalem had gold crosses on a silver/white background which is VERY unusual in heraldry.

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The central cross is called a cross potent, potent is old english for a walking staff, and the four smaller ones plain crosslets in heraldry.
The Crusader Kings of Jerusalem had gold crosses on a silver/white background which is VERY unusual in heraldry.

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So no obvious connection with TA Gunners in the Royal County of Berkshire? Mike
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When the TA's 48th Division adopted its new sign in 1961 it was said that said that the cross at its centre - which is identical with the one at the centre of the AGRA's sign - was the red cross of St Chad, Anglo-Saxon Bishop of Mercia.

At one period of the Mercian kingdom it included what is now Berkshire. Could the four crosslets represent the AGRA's four Medium Regiments?

Tenuous but possible?

To further confuse things the original application for the AGRA's sign made in March 1949 described it as a Jerusalem or Crusader’s cross.

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Jon,
Many thanks. I was relying on you for the erudite explanation. Almost as obscure as the four A's of 42 AGRA. Mike
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