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Bonsoir à tous, Hello everybody.
I live very close to Arras in France. I actually have 2 cap badges from NZ engineers. A larger one of 31mm in diameter and a smaller one of 23mm in diameter. The largest is a New Zealand tunneleer. It comes from New Zealand.... They dug the galleries connecting the old quarries under the city of Arras before the offensive of April 9, 1917 and many others in the region, not to mention the mine tunnels .... Sorry i don't find the title... J-P. |
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I have those there too
NZ Maori tunneleers!.... Come in Arras and Visit "Wellington Quarries"! Good weekend! J-P |
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Thanks for sharing your badges. My wife and I visited the Arras quarries in 2008. Kind Regards, John |
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Thanks to the author of the new book on the New Zealand Engineers Tunnelling company (who provided the orders) we now have a little more insight into badges worn by this unit.
Once again history has left us with speculation! The word 'similar' is mentioned to describe the badge issued to the company. The routine order used it for a reason. The writer didn't say 'same' or 'larger than' (the TF NZE badge) which would have made it much easier for us 105 years later. In my view the existing TF NZE badge is too small and the larger version is a simple practicality, especially in the dim lighting of tunnels. It would seem that tunnellers wore both large and small size cap/hat badges in France. I am of the view that the large size NZE badge was ordered by and made for the NZE Tunnelling company in England before they left for France in 1916. Simply because they needed badges for the men and not because they wanted a special tunnellers distinction. While I haven't measured the badge I bet it is the same diameter as a common coin of the time, maybe a penny? Barry |
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Thanks Barry for this information. Interesting that the men were not to wear collar badges. Any thoughts why not?
Cheers John |
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My suggestion for the men not wearing collar badges would be due to status.
The higher the rank the more badges allowed to be worn. Barry |
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What are the dimensions of the small NZE tunnelers badge in comparison to the large badge.
In millimetres please! Also did Stokes and Sons make the engineers badge? Thanks for sharing!
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Rob, see Post 16 above regarding dimensions
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