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Old 27-04-13, 12:57 PM
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Hi,
Thought I would share a recent postcard purchase of a recently married couple (24th Feb 1915). Hubby C. A. Corbett in the uniform of an artilleryman of the 1st Battery (CMR) South African Mounted Rifles.

Second picture is a more detailed image showing the SAMR cap badge, artillery collars and CMR s/t.

My question is:
Did all the SAMR units wear the s/t of there original unit? i.e. 1st = CMR, 2nd = NP or ORCP, 3rd = NP (I think), 4th = TP and 5th = CMP. If so the the double scroll titles SAMR over ZABS probably only date post WW1. Owen has the double sroll title as 1913 - 1926 but is this based on evidence or merely the time period the unit was in existance. To my knowledge (dress regulations) only PF units adopted the bilingual titles post 1922 and as the SAMR was a PF unit, I hazard the guess that they adopted theirs at the same time.

Any concreate evidence of the SAMR/ZABS title been worn prior to 1922 would be nice to see... any takers

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Old 15-05-13, 02:33 PM
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Just bumping this up to see if any response...
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Old 16-05-13, 03:21 AM
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I cant help you with the badge dating but they don't look too happy; do you think perhaps he was off to fight in GSWA?

And would he be carrying a riding crop?

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Old 16-05-13, 08:15 PM
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Iain

I have seen many WW1 pictures and many soldiers of this era carried a swagger stick vearing in size, however, this does appear to be rather thin and more like a riding crop, which makes sense as they were a mounted unit.

He might have been a driver, in which case it is correct?

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Old 17-05-13, 02:35 AM
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Brian,

I thought at first a swagger stick but he wears no rank. So I also speculated it was a riding crop based on them being mounted.

Steven,

sorry if its going off subject a little.

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Old 17-05-13, 07:16 AM
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Iain

I have a number of pictures of SA WW1 troops (non NCO's) and it seemed to be the fashionable thing to have a swagger stick, especially the 1st SA INF Brigade chaps.

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Old 17-05-13, 08:31 AM
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Brian,

thanks for the info; I wasnt aware.

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Old 22-05-13, 06:43 AM
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Default Anouther WWI artillery photo for review

Found this photograph of an artillery man c.WWI and require some opinions on the insignia

Cap badge: Royal Artillery double wheel with 'Quo Fas Et Gloria Ducunt' and 'Ubique' scrolls
Collars: Standard pattern artillery grenades
Buttons: UK General service
Shoulder title: Brigade number over SAFA (South African Field Artillery)

My question is, was the SAFA gunners issued with RA insignia and SAFA titles OR was this a RA chap seconded to th SAFA?

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Old 22-05-13, 09:30 AM
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Steven

One of those many many mysteries...The SAFA definately had their own badges during WW1, not sure why this chap is wearing a RA cap badge, one can but speculate on such things. Maybe swapped out his SAFA badge with a RA gunner, whilst on service in GEA or Palestine?

Nice picture though, tried my best to enharnce the shoulder title using photo shop etc unable to pick out what battery he was with. They were not brigaded at this time.

I have seen very few SAFA pictures like this, I have seen more SAHA posed pictures. This is mainly because the SAFA served in zones where there was limited oportunities for such pastimes, SAHA chaps served of course in France and took leave in the UK.

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Old 22-05-13, 01:13 PM
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Hi Brian,
Thanks for the reply. Yes there are not many SAFA pictures out there. I have a group postcard of signal section of SAHA that I will scan and post... may only get to that next week though.

I also tried working with the picture but could not make out the battery number. Scan was done at max 600 dpi and I cannot go any higher.

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