Commando Carrier

[Mike Jackson]

"Perfidious Albion" or "Rusty B" - but which ship? I think the photo was taken in Singapore - the keen eyed can spot an RAF Beverley landing. Mike
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[Nozzer]

If you have the picture, you might be able to make out the the area that I have circled? It might not be clear, but there is a recognition letter that will identify which ship it is. I hope you don't mind me using your photo?

Out of interest, the phrase "Perfidious Albion" comes from a poem in, I believe, the 1971-72 commissioning book. Her correct "nickname" is "The Old Grey Ghost of the Borneo Coast"

Anyway, I wish you luck in your quest to identify which of these fine ships it is.

Andrew

[Mike Jackson]

Originally Posted by Nozzer

If you have the picture, you might be able to make out the the area that I have circled? It might not be clear, but there is a recognition letter that will identify which ship it is. I hope you don't mind me using your photo?

Out of interest, the phrase "Perfidious Albion" comes from a poem in, I believe, the 1971-72 commissioning book. Her correct "nickname" is "The Old Grey Ghost of the Borneo Coast"

Anyway, I wish you luck in your quest to identify which of these fine ships it is.

Andrew

Andrew,
Many thanks. I tried and failed. I have an image of HMS Bulwark I took in HK in Jun 67 - the Island (?) on the starboard side is clearly marked with number R08, but it's not repeated on the port side. Did you see the Beverley - 2 o'clock from the top of the funnel.
Mike

[Nozzer]

Originally Posted by Mike Jackson

Andrew,
Many thanks. I tried and failed. I have an image of HMS Bulwark I took in HK in Jun 67 - the Island (?) on the starboard side is clearly marked with number R08, but it's not repeated on the port side. Did you see the Beverley - 2 o'clock from the top of the funnel.
Mike

Mike,

Again, I have borrowed your image and circled (in red) where the Beverley is. It would be easy to miss.

Ok, I have studied your picture and I think the answer lies with The two landing craft on the port side (circled in yellow). If you can make the pennant numbers out, B for Bulwark and L for Albion.

Andrew

[Mike Jackson]

Originally Posted by Nozzer

Mike,

Again, I have borrowed your image and circled (in red) where the Beverley is. It would be easy to miss.

Ok, I have studied your picture and I think the answer lies with The two landing craft on the port side (circled in yellow). If you can make the pennant numbers out, B for Bulwark and L for Albion.

Andrew

Andrew,
The two LCM: B3 and B4. Rusty B it is. Many thanks. Final question - what is the significance of the long white pennant? Length of commission? Mike

[Nozzer]

Paying off pennant.

Traditionally, the paying off pennant is the length of the ship plus a foot for each year of the commission.

[fougasse1940]

Your paying off pennant looks like a scratch in the negative to me, and could the Beverley be a de Havilland Canada DHC-4 Caribou?

Rgds, Thomas.

[Mike Jackson]

Originally Posted by fougasse1940

Your paying off pennant looks like a scratch in the negative to me, and could the Beverley be a de Havilland Canada DHC-4 Caribou?

Rgds, Thomas.

Could be - I only have a 6 x 4 inch print. And you could well be right - that "cranked" fuselage is a signature of the Caribou. Having said Beverley, I couldn't recall them operating further East than Aden and the Radfan. I'll look into Caribou - maybe the fledgling Singapore Air Force operated them? Mike

Afternote: I spoke too soon! The DHC-4 only has a single tail fin - the Beverley has twin fins.