Edward 8th Pattern Royal Engineers Repro?

[2747andy]

Whilst browsing I noticed a dealer selling an Ed 8th RE ORs pattern badge for £200? I've had one very similar for quite a while and always regarded it as a copy, when compared to the other two I have! I've posted pictures of all three, the lugged one is a heavy gilt officers pattern with the other two slidered! I suspect the copy to be the one without the voiding between the Garter Strap and the flanking laurels? The bad one has poor lettering to the garter strap and the detail to the cypher is not that hot either!!

Your thoughts please, I'm considering passing on my thoughts to the dealer, as I would hate anyone paying £200 for a suspect badge and I'm sure any dealer worth their salt would gratefully accept the information! I've almost got into some "Hot Water" in the past when bring dealers items into question, I assure all that my intentions are in the interest of collectors, as a ebay seller myself, I always accept correction!!

Andy

[engr9266]

Collecting RE badges, I have found that there are one's that are voided between the garter strap and the laurel leaves aswell as non voided bagdes. This is seen from QV up to GV1R badges in gilding metal, bronze and gilt.

[Tinto]

Hi,
I agree with Jerry, there are many variations around.
Here is my EdwardVIII for comparison.
Tinto

[2747andy]

Originally Posted by Tinto

Hi,
I agree with Jerry, there are many variations around.
Here is my EdwardVIII for comparison.
Tinto

Hi Tinto,
is that a replacement slider?

Andy

[Tinto]

Hi Andy,
Looks like the original slider. However, it is S-shaped if you know what I mean,
a small section of the slider going "northwards".
Regards, Tinto

[2747andy]

any chance of a side on photo?

Andy

[Tinto]

Here goes, Andy. Hope this is OK.
Tinton

[2747andy]

Thanks Tinto,
nice thick slider, looks like I now need a non-voided badge, won't be paying £200 though!

Andy

[fougasse1940]

RE OR's badges didn't have voids between the garter and laurel wreath until 1949. All EviiiR OR's badges with voiding between garter & wreath are fake.
EviiiR badges in gilding metal for OR's, bronze with voiding for OSD and gilt converted GvR, with a new Cypher soldered in, for officers.
Worn from 1938 onwards, according to my sources.

Rgds,
fougasse1940.

[Alan O]

My latest find. Like the copies shown in post 1Ebay is full of the voided ones which are fakes taken from an officers pattern die.

[Mike B]

Alan
Nice one. If I recall correctly the proper ones are made from a rather 'yellow' metal.
Mike

[Alan O]

Mike

Yes it is. There are WW2 GVI RE badges and several others which have the same yellow hue.

Alan

[tonyb]

Certainly not the same as Alan's, although it looks the same as the third badge in post #1 in the attached thread.
At under £13 it was worth a shot, straws and clutching come to mind, not one I will be lashing in the bin.
Cheers Tony.

[Alan O]

Unfortunately I think that all 3 badges in post 1 are copies.

[tonyb]

A gap filler it is then, though at the prices demanded it's a gap they won't be filled.
Thanks Tony.