Unknown Pipe band

[iaindh]

Hi all,

can anyone identify this pipe band?

Suspect it might be the Liverpool Scottish although I cant see a white stripe in the tartan.

Queens visit to Southport.jpg

Iain

[fougasse1940]

With (at least) three beards it might not be military?

Rgds,

Thomas.

[iaindh]

Hi Thomas,

Maybe not.... It was a visit by the Queen to Southport, a town I used to live in.

They do seem to have a white hackle.

rgds

Iain

[Peter Brydon]

Iain,
Despite the Southport location, I dont think it is the Liverpool Scottish. The actual Pipes and Drums of the Liverpool Scottish ceased to exist some time ago but more recently the Pipes and Drums of the Regimental Association have taken over from the original P and D.

Pipers of the Liverpool Scottish wore the glengarry and not the feather bonnet ( which was I think worn by their drummers )

I have a photo of the Liverpool Scottish pipes and drums in Rodney Street in Liverpool which I will try and find and post.

Peter

Picture now found

[iaindh]

Hi Peter,

I think this photo is from 1977, however your (very nice) pic of the Liverpool Scottish has certain dissimilarities, eg the socks, the Glengarry.

Incidentally Thomas, Peter's pic also has a bearded Piper though I'm not actually sure to what extent beards were worn, or allowed in the Scottish regiments.

rgds,

Iain

[fougasse1940]

Indeed another beard, there goes the notion that only pioneers wear beards.

Rgds,

Thomas.

[tynesideirish]

If these are Regimental Association Pipe Bands, they are affiliated civvies and thus beards can be worn. The 1st picture, would bare out the civvie cry as most appear well over service age.

Unless medically exempt only the infantry Pioneer Sergeant's and the Royal Navy can grow the full set.

(though as photos show in Afghanistan, were 'men' have beards, and there is little call for NBC an in theatre leniency seems to be the norm...)

[Cruachan]

In the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders the CO's Piper was permitted to wear a beard. However, this was based solely on regimental tradition and, as such, was unofficial.

I am pretty certain that that is a civilian band in the photo.

J

[iaindh]

Thank you all for the input.

I do know in the Navy, (shut up all you village people fans,) that permission has to be sought to grow a "full set", perhaps this is also the case with the Highland Regiments. I certainly have pictures in my mind of bearded Scotsmen but this may just be a theatre portrayal.
Peter's picture does show a bearded Liverpool Scottish band member but I suspect that my pic is actually a civilian Pipe band from the feedback.

Iain

[Peter Brydon]

I have been doing some searching and found this site:

http://www.eyrewaves.co.uk/rspba/BandProfiles_intro.asp

The Pipes and Drums,the subject of this thread are not those where there are pictures of the various P and D`s on the website.

I have come to the conclusion that it may be a civilian Pipes and Drums band that ceased to exist after 1977. The Clan McLoed Pipe Band which was based in Liverpool is a possiblity.

P.B.

[iaindh]

Hi Peter,

just googling the McCleod tartan it doesn't seem to be the same as in my pic. I thought at first it may have been a Black Watch tartan but seemed a little light; however, apart from a lack of a white stripe, it did look close to the Forbes tartan of the L'pool Scottish which made me consider the link.

I do think it is probably a civilian pipe band.

Iain

[Spr Jock]

Iain ,

ask the folks over at the The Pipe Band Forum .
Someone is bound to know someone who knows ...

http://www.pipebandsforum.com/index.php?

Jock