Rhodesian SAS and Selous Scouts

[Blue Puttees]

I know of one members of the Rhodesian SAS who also served with the Selous Scouts. Would he have been entitled to wear both sets of jump wings at the same time?

[Flatdog]

Blue,

Yes he would wear SAS wings on shoulder, or chest if awarded by Regiment. Scout wings would be worn on right breast only.

Clay

[rhodesianmilitaria]

Originally Posted by Flatdog

Blue,

Yes he would wear SAS wings on shoulder, or chest if awarded by Regiment. Scout wings would be worn on right breast only.

Clay

Evidence?

[Frank Kelley]

I don't think I have seen both, actually being worn together at the same time, perhaps you can show a photograph?

Originally Posted by Flatdog

Blue,

Yes he would wear SAS wings on shoulder, or chest if awarded by Regiment. Scout wings would be worn on right breast only.

Clay

[Frank Kelley]

Apparently not then?

[rhodesianmilitaria]

I have but I want to check something before I make a comment.

[rhodesianmilitaria]

I have only ever seen once another para wing worn along with the Selous Scouts wing worn on the same shirt. I'll explain this with photos in a moment.

Apart from this one instance I have never seen it.
Jonathon Pittaway who wrote two books on the Selous Scouts may have seen it. He is a member of this forum.

[Frank Kelley]

Therefore, one does wonder just where this information actually comes from then?

Originally Posted by Flatdog

Blue,

Yes he would wear SAS wings on shoulder, or chest if awarded by Regiment. Scout wings would be worn on right breast only.

Clay

[Flatdog]

Gentlemen,

I just came back to this thread. Re-reading the original post I failed to clarify what I meant to write and stated only position of said wings. Mea culpa. The wearing of both at once would appear to not be the case. I think it would be rare that an SAS man would give up the wings won so hard.

Reading all the other posts especially Peter's who I admire for his great knowledge, I realize that the picture of Ron Reid Daly's uniform is the same one (albeit in a slightly different setting) I had seen in which both wings were on it. Since it was RRD's and it was presented as such, I didn't question it. After all he was the "Man". Like Peter, I certainly would not "dress up" such a historical piece. I did not give it the critical eye a collector should.

I am humbled and wish to apologize for presenting inaccurate/ incomplete information and causing such consternation among fellow collectors.

Clay

[Frank Kelley]

Apologies certainly not needed, I just wondered where you got the information from and assumed you must have seen individual soldiers actually wearing both wings, during the UDI period, which I am sure that I have never seen.

[rhodesianmilitaria]

Originally Posted by Flatdog

Gentlemen,

I just came back to this thread. Re-reading the original post I failed to clarify what I meant to write and stated only position of said wings. Mea culpa. The wearing of both at once would appear to not be the case. I think it would be rare that an SAS man would give up the wings won so hard.

Reading all the other posts especially Peter's who I admire for his great knowledge, I realize that the picture of Ron Reid Daly's uniform is the same one (albeit in a slightly different setting) I had seen in which both wings were on it. Since it was RRD's and it was presented as such, I didn't question it. After all he was the "Man". Like Peter, I certainly would not "dress up" such a historical piece. I did not give it the critical eye a collector should.

I am humbled and wish to apologize for presenting inaccurate/ incomplete information and causing such consternation among fellow collectors.

Clay

All good Clay, no apologies are needed. As Ron Reid-Daly served in 'C' Squadron if any man in the Selous Scouts had any reason to wear both wings it would have been him, but he didn't.
A number had previously served in the RhSAS including Chris Schulenburg GCV, SCR and WoC, Stretch Franklin SCR and Dale Collett SCR and yet none of them wore both wings.

[Sunray9]

Originally Posted by rhodesianmilitaria

All good Clay, no apologies are needed. As Ron Reid-Daly served in 'C' Squadron if any man in the Selous Scouts had any reason to wear both wings it would have been him, but he didn't.
A number had previously served in the RhSAS including Chris Schulenburg GCV, SCR and WoC, Stretch Franklin SCR and Dale Collett SCR and yet none of them wore both wings.

I think I'm right in saying that the late Clive Mason also had service with Royal Marines, Australian and Rhodesian SAS and Selous Scouts.

Ritchie.