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#31
10-12-17, 10:15 PM
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I have no problem with a serving or even ex member of the aforementioned Regiment or any other Regiment having proud traditions.
But isn't it a WALTism to claim a regimental distinction you haven't earned. When Delboy said "Who dares Wins Rodders" wasn't he supposed to look stupid for comedic effect? IMHO Rob 
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#32
10-12-17, 11:56 PM
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Motto
Its a badge with out the or Glory as on the sabretache with the Or Glory it becomes the Motto. Its just a matter of fact that we Lancers call it that as it has always has been that way for many years. The main reason that we correct people is to enlighten them on our proud tradition. This thread has done its job as many have now been enlightened to why we call it the Motto whether you do or don't is up to you.
Happy Christmas one and All Best Mac OR GLORY
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#34
11-12-17, 09:13 AM
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Motto
its that time of year
[OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH....NO IT.....ISN,T............
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#35
11-12-17, 01:23 PM
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Mac is correct: we have now been comprehensively informed as to why members of the 17th, past and present, refer to it as they do. As to the other objections, even quibbles about the propriety of using such a term, I can only say...
Merry Christmas to all! Last edited by peter monahan; 12-12-17 at 12:46 PM.
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#36
11-12-17, 08:39 PM
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the Motto
The "Motto" emblem was selected by Col. John Hale, who in 1759 raised the 18th Light Dragoon, as a symbolic perpetual memorial to the memory of Gen. Woolfe who died at the siege of Quebec. The 18th were later renumbered 17th LD as the original 17th had been disbanded. And the rest 17L. 17/21L, QRL and now RL is simply history. The symbolic Death or Glory became the regiments Motto so the emblem / badge was and is referred to as a motto.
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#37
11-12-17, 10:06 PM
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Interestingly in "Regimental Badges" by Major T J Edwards he says "Death or Glory" was also worn on the helmets of the 24th Light Dragoons from 1794 to 1802?
Rob
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#38
11-12-17, 10:27 PM
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Also Interesting is that Col John Hale was of the 47th Regt of Foot (LNL) at the time of Gen Wolfes death and departing for England with his last Despatch.
Gen Wolfe himself being an Infantry man serving with many Regts of Foot during his career Paul
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