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[NEMO]

HI can any one help me out here picked up a tin of badges , am happy about the cloth but not sure on the metal , theres a few unknowns here ?

[NEMO]

and more , is the marks man badge an early example are the rifle muzzles old style or just a variation please ?

[davidwyke]

Hi Michael

A few thoughts to kick things off:

Dukes badges - the bronze one is an OSD cap badge with the blades broken off.
The O/R's bi-metal badge looks like an early lugged example, can't really comment on authenticity from the photo.

London Scottish - looks OK to me and they often have a horizontal pin fastener like yours. No doubt they have been copied though so the badge experts can decide on that one.

York & Lancs - good one and probably early. Looks like it has been broached, possibly for wear as a pagri badge?

Nazi U-Boat badge - has been extensively copied. The majority (but not all) are maker-marked on the back. There were around 15 different makers and many variants of the genuine badges and, as I said, there are countless repros.

Hope this is of some help?

David

[Neil M.ex14/20H.MAN A.C.F]

Hi Michael
The London Scots looks A1 to me,a good badge.
Neil

[badger123]

I agree with David, the York and Lancs looks like its been broached as a pagri badge.

Does it look like its been gilded or is the brass just very shiny?

Ivan

[NEMO]

Many thanks gents so far , Ivor I have added a better picture of the Y & L`s for your inspection , also am currious about the Dukes badge with lugs,
the small brass` ER ` badge has " 19 CROWNED 02 " across it ? Coronation insignia worn by an Royal usher????

[davidwyke]

Hi Michael

DOW cap badge looks OK to me but there are many on the forum with more expertise in cap badges than me so someone else might have a different opinion!. Given that it has lugs, if it was worn in this country it could date c.1897 - 1903 and no doubt some were still in use for several years after that. However, they were worn for a longer period in India and the 1st Battalion were stationed in India from around 1905-1920 so it could have been worn during that period also.

York & Lancs - Ivan is your man for York & Lancs badges. To me, though, it looks more like an early badge which has had a pin "officially" (regimentally) applied so it could be worn as a pagri badge; rather than "unofficially" for wear as a civvy broach. If it was worn as a pagri badge they were usually (but not always) worn in India. The 2nd Bn were stationed in India 1897-1902 and the 1st Bn 1902 - 1914. I think this would be the most likely period of use but I'm sure Ivan has more idea about that than me.

The ER badge - I've seen one before somewhere but can't remember where. I would say that it's more likely to be a souvenir of the Coronation, rather than something that was worn at the event but that's nothing more than a guess.

David

[Alan O]

The Y&L has an odd finish. I suspect that it has been gilded by a jeweller. A sweetheart conversion with the pin rather than a pagri in my opinion.

[davidwyke]

Could be, it does seem to have a "bright" finish but I thought it was just a trick of the light.

David

[magpie]

I would agree with alan, the silver plate has probably gone black on the rose and crown.