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Old 09-01-18, 08:24 PM
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Lance Corporal John McAvoy. Pioneers, Royal Irish Rifles.

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McAVOY, John.....Service Number 18183,Died 01/07/1916,Aged 20,13th Bn.Royal Irish Rifles.
Son of Mrs. Ellen Jane McAvoy, of Alton Buildings, Mill St, Newtownards, Co. Down.

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Old 12-01-18, 10:39 AM
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Jo, this seems to have been a practice that was adopted by some British Regiments during the early part of the Great War, I don't know whether anyone has ever ventured an answer on the forum.

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Old 12-01-18, 12:21 PM
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Jo, this seems to have been a practice that was adopted by some British Regiments during the early part of the Great War, I don't know whether anyone has ever ventured an answer on the forum.

Rob
Thank you Rob for your help, that was the first time,of all the photos posted,that I had seen something of the sort.

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Some members of the 5th Kings Liverpools wore their 3 tier T/5/KINGS titles on their collars and I ,for one, had assumed it was to prevent the titles being damaged during drill movements, but the RIR title would net have been affected in the same way.

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I wonder if the uniform is that of a Bandsman or Bugler? The buttons seem to be white metal and not black horn rifle buttons and he is wearing a lanyard and/or shoulder cords.

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When Kitcheners Army Blues were issued the practice of wearing shoulder titles on the collars occurred frequently due to the lack of shoulder straps.

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Old 14-01-18, 05:16 PM
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This chap seems to have shoulder straps, but I wonder whether the lack of collar badges on service dress prompted some CO's to insist that titles were worn in place, just a thought . . !

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I also think that he was a Bandsman or Bugler. The shoulder cords did not facilitate the titles being worn there so they were worn on the collar.
I believe the 13th RIR was formed from the 1st Co Down Regiment of the UVF and came to Kitchener's army complete with their locally sourced uniforms and equipment. This might explain the metal buttons.
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