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#61
10-10-17, 08:41 AM
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K & K says they were only made in WM or Bronze.
British Military Badges by Keith Rawlings published in 1977 agrees and states WM (1902) and BZ with a then value of £12.00 each so presumably pretty rare even then. John Gaylor says they wore a Bronzed Royal Crest but also in brass, but no mention of white metal. I suspect that Bronze (as worn by Officers) is different to Bronzed which is a coloured coating applied to a cheaper base metal. The North Devon Hussars badges I have seen have generally had a dark coating, which is presumably "bronzed"? but could be polished off to make a badge GM or brass. Bronze Officers cap badges (3 bendable tags and Gaunt tablet) and collar badges (2 lugs and Gaunt tablet) exist with a base scroll saying "Royal 1st Devon Yeomanry" so are any of the Bronze Officers badges without the scroll related to RDY, maybe they are all Staff Officers? Gaunt tablets appear to be mostly WW1 in date and there is no mention of "Imperial" so these base scrolled badges should be post 1908? And I agree a polished GM badge looks pretty similar to WM in a black and white photo, but if they were bronzed they would appear darker. Here are a few of the current crop of fakes I have acquired for study, the larger one also appears in WM and has been around for a long time, the smaller ones have been turning up more recently and I wonder if the are utilising part of a RAPC or Cavalry die set? Rob 
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#62
10-10-17, 10:01 AM
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Thank you Rob for your very imfomative reply.
The Smith and Harris Yeomanry book have a photo of a WM badge, on my OP, and the soldiers in full dress appear to be wearing WM. Ive never seen or heard of the Bronze badge with scroll, most interesting. I have however, seen 2 photographs of officers, post 1908 wearing the bronze Royal crest badge. Going back to the WM and GM badge, the Yorkshire Dragoons wore GM on full dress and had a black one for service dress, do you think the Devon Yeomanry had the GM one for service dress? I don't think, without sealed patterns we'll get to the bottom of this. Oh and thanks Rob for the photos of the fakes, they're the ones I've seen on the various auction sites, the Lichfield book photo on my OP looks like one of the fakes, what do you think? Thank you again all
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#64
27-11-17, 01:33 PM
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Ale,
Its more likely to be a cap badge of an Officer on the staff. regards
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#66
28-11-17, 10:55 AM
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I agree with Simon its unlikely to be Devon Yeomanry related, but perhaps not impossible.
Could it be an arm badge? Rob
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#67
28-11-17, 11:12 AM
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In WW1 Officers wore hem in Gilt, Bronze and Bullion versions. Could also be from a Staff Officers armbandd. Not an NCO's arm badge though. reards
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#69
16-12-17, 04:58 PM
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Alex,
Listed in the Catalogue of Clothing and Necessaries 1949 Section CB Armlets, Badges, Chevrons and Titles CB1778 ROYAL CREST, G.M. GILT For War Office Staff Armlets Tim See also http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...ctureid=131730
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#71
17-12-17, 01:40 PM
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Alex,
I did say this in my post #5 above and that it COULD be off an armband or a cap. regards
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Simon Butterworth Manchester Regiment Collector Rank, Prize & Trade Badges British & Commonwealth Artillery Badges
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#73
01-04-18, 08:39 PM
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1st Royal Devon Yeomanry or General Staff Cap badge
Hello All
I have the 2 badges pictured below and originally considered them to be General Staff badges but I am aware they can be confused with 1st Royal Devon Yeomanry cap badges. Both badges are die cast with foldable blades to the rear, one bronze and the other gilt and both are 39mm tall by 26mm wide. I have read in other posts that the Devon Yeomanry did not have gilt badges so does the fact that both are the same size and pattern make them General Staff or could one or both be 1st Royal Devon Yeomanry. Opinions welcome please. Many thanks Paddy
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#74
01-04-18, 08:48 PM
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The gilt badge could be for a Staff Officer's arm band
http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...ctureid=131730 Tim
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#75
01-04-18, 08:58 PM
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Tim
Many thanks for your reply, the badges certainly look similar although there are slight differences where the tail is connected to the lion's head in the arm band badge but not mine and there is no gap between the cross of the orb and the lion's leg on the arm band badge but there is on mine. I may have to contact Sapper to see if he can tell me what type of fixings are on the arm band badge. Many thanks again Paddy
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