SAS badge - genuine WWII or post war?

[pv.mil]

Dear All,

Could it be a genuine WWII SAS badge?

Thanks for your help!

Wkr,

Peter

[HamandJam]

Hi this is a ww2 pattern badge worn by French and Belgian SAS. An identical pattern was worn post war in Malaya but with a particular shade of blue wings. The ww2 ones have a light rather softer blue. See an example from my collection.

From your example could you share a day light picture?

Cheers
JB

[dubaiguy]

Hopefully adding to this thread, please see attached images of one that came my way recently. I'd assumed it was a fake as it came with a mixed group of very dirty WWII era metal badges and wasn't particularly mentioned by the seller.

However, I was heartened to see HamandJam's last post. Perhaps I'd made a completely wrong assumption and it's in with a chance. If it is genuine it will make a welcome addition as I've, in my ignorance, mainly shied away from Special Forces insignia as too rare, too faked and very expensive to collect.

It does have some brown staining to the thread though which might have come from the manky badges it was kept with.

Any opinions?

Mark

[HamandJam]

Hi this is a good late ww2 British SAS beret badge also seen worn by ww2. French SAS,


Cheerio
JB

[dubaiguy]

I'm a happy man, Thanks JB

[pv.mil]

Dear JB,

Thanks for your advice. In annex some day light pictures.

Wkr,

Peter

[HamandJam]

I found this picture in my archive, 2 badges on left and one far right are with provenance to ww2 5th SAS (Belgian). The 3rd one is what is referred as Malayan era by SAS collectors. Not only the colour of feathers is different also details sword slightly differ e.g handle is bigger and stiching around feathers is slightly different.

Cheers
JB

Originally Posted by HamandJam

Hi this is a ww2 pattern badge worn by French and Belgian SAS. An identical pattern was worn post war in Malaya but with a particular shade of blue wings. The ww2 ones have a light rather softer blue. See an example from my collection.

From your example could you share a day light picture?

Cheers
JB

[JON188]

The Malayan badge (my favourite of cap badges ) seen near the green loop is from joe billet, worn in Malaya
Regards
Jon

[Mike B]

What a great selection ...
Love the Malayan Scouts badges
Very very nice to see
Mike

[JON188]

Thanks Mike. I appreciate your comments Sir.
It's an older picture from 2016 I did for a mate.

[HamandJam]

Jon,

Wow what a stunning group thanks for sharing, looks like a candy store to me!

The badge worn by Joe Billet is indeed identical with that carachteristic darker shade of blue.

Cheerio,
JB

Originally Posted by JON188

The Malayan badge (my favourite of cap badges ) seen near the green loop is from joe billet, worn in Malaya
Regards
Jon

[silverwash]

dancing around the subject. the premise is that at some time after the disbandment at the end of WW2 and remustering of the SAS, a decision was taken to

a) change the design of the embroidered cap badge to the Belgian / French
version

b) change the colour of the wing feathers

or was it a case of left over stock with the vagaries of manufacture