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Royal Netherlands Army Beret Badge (Badges)
Can anyone please explain the reason for the additional braid at each end of this Hussars van Boreel backing to the beret badge?
The badge is white metal, although in the image it looks brass. The rear part of the backing is black, but instead of overlapping at the sides it has been trimmed to the same size as the blue. Marc Last edited by 54Bty; 09-02-22 at 06:16 PM. |
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I figured Henk would be all over this, but in his absence I'll give it a go, the backing is supposed to be blue with black vertical edges, seems unofficial or home made, perhaps an early version?
The badge is white metal? Rgds, Thomas. |
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Some additional information, the backing was called a 'soutache', and this particular one a 'kleermakers aanmaak' (taylors manufacture). It came with a mica stiffener and a battle dress cloth, or in your case black cloth, back. It dates from 1947 to 1954. It is just a variation, nothing to worry about.
The badge in white metal, called 'Berlin silver' in the Dutch army (compare to 'german silver' in the uk), came in three versions, the first one with double blades, issued from 1947 to 1954. The second, with lugs, 1954 to 1980, came in 5 or 6 variations, different dies and different makers. The third version dates from 1980 to the present, and comes with 'NATO fittings', tombstone shaped sheet metal lugs. Rgds, Thomas. |
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Reporting!
Thank you Thomas for he confidence shown. I assume most is already said. Just a few additions. These were called baret lint (ribbon) by normal people (it is quite possible the french word soutache was used by some with more historical background). They were of two layers of material (when two colours had to be shown like here). For all of the cavalry the upper one was blue (Nassau-blue?) and the lower one, protruding at left and right were/are in regimental colour being dark-blue (not black) for the Regiment Huzaren van Boreel. This regiment always manned the tactical armoured recce units. Those being members of such a recce unit, wore the swallow tailed version of the ribbon (see my avatar). The other hussar regiments provide(d) tank units and did not use the swallow tailed ribbon. The ribbon as shown is definitely not official. It looks as if someone tried to fabric a ribbon for the badge. It could be the picture, but the blue of the patch is not as bright as it should be in my opinion. The badge looks as being yellow metal, but all cavalry wore white metal badges. This again could be the result of the light circumstances when taking the image. Look here for examples: https://www.google.nl/search?q=baret...HUQ1ArIQsAQIIg
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Thank you Thomas and Henk.
I have adjusted the colour slightly and will attempt to produce a better image later. The badge is white metal and the backing to the front blue cloth is black (on some other badges I have the backing cloth is khaki cloth), however the two pieces of braid at the end are a dark blue. Marc |
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Changed the initial post image, and are some others.
Marc Last edited by 54Bty; 09-02-22 at 06:16 PM. |
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Nice ones. I assume that the first picture now is much more like the original then before.
The second of the new ones is the recce one as described above. The one without coloured borders either lost it, or is more or less a neutral one. I got one like that while in training because it wasn't clear at that moment in time what my destination would be.
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In the big book on NL badges it is written that the background for the Hussars van Boreel changed from rectangular to the swallow tailed oblong in 1951.
A slight variation to the standard badge. Marc Last edited by 54Bty; 09-02-22 at 06:16 PM. |
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PT Instr
Is this a 2015 copy of the original design, or a proper issued badge?
Marc Last edited by 54Bty; 09-02-22 at 06:16 PM. |
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Marc,
It looks ok to me, what makes you think it is or could be a copy ? regards, Albert.
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Did you ever notice the existence of copies of Netherlands "baretemblemen"? BTW what are the dates this badge is in use? Regards,
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Phisical education and sport, instituted 2004.
https://wo2forum.nl/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=37916 regards, Albert.
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Albert thank you very much indeed. It is one I now have to move in the collection.
Did you see the 'Aide-de-Camp of H.R.H. The Prince of The Netherlands' beret badge on ebay? I also missed the 'Bewakingskorps' beret badge. Marc |
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