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Old 25-07-17, 12:31 AM
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Good Evening Everyone......

I just rec'd the badge as shown to be added to my South African Constabulary collection / display.....

The thing is I have never seen a set of initials like this before and am wondering where it would have been worn, on the shoulder??????

The lugs are the flat 6 sided and the retaining pin is square..... This is the first square pin that I have ever seen......

Any information would be greatly appreciated.....

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Old 25-07-17, 04:43 PM
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Hi Mike, very nice indeed. I haven't seen this before. I have checked mine and they are all horizontal, not vertical. They also have round lugs not square. Not sure where it would have been worn, As you know, I also have a keen interest in the SAC, so if you turn up any more info, I would be happy to learn. Have a great evening. Andrew
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Thank You Andrew.....

It is a puzzle to me also, I have gone through every book that I have and nothing......

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Good Afternoon Everyone.....

I just got off the phone with the man who wrote the book on the South African Constabulary and he told me that he is 99% sure that this badge is one of the Prototypes that that Baden-Powell ordered from Birmingham when the SAC was founded...... He rejected it and went with the horizontal badge..... He has a Brass QV crown badge that was a prototype with the square lugs..... Neither badge though has a makers mark.....

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Hi Mike,

Thank you for sharing this new information. Aside from it being very interesting and if correct of course, it would seem you have a lovely little find to add to your collection. A tentative but very hopeful...well done..

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Good Afternoon Everyone.....

I just got off the phone with the man who wrote the book on the South African Constabulary and he told me that he is 99% sure that this badge is one of the Prototypes that that Baden-Powell ordered from Birmingham when the SAC was founded...... He rejected it and went with the horizontal badge..... He has a Brass QV crown badge that was a prototype with the square lugs..... Neither badge though has a makers mark.....

Mike
Thanks Mike, that is indeed a great find then. Can't be more than a hand full of those around. Have a great evening. Regards Andrew
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I have just seen this, I had acquired a set of these but without the backing plate and pin. Wondered how it fitted into the uniform, could it have been used on headress?
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Hello Bill.....

Individual letters were used on the epaulets....

See Photo.....

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Hi Mike,
Took a look at my copy of Tylden (The armed forces of SA 1659 - 1954) and he mentions when discussing the SAC uniform - 'The first shoulder titles were the initials worn vertically. This was altered to the usual horizontal pattern' - and he references a Lt.Col Lane in the Feb 1946 edition of Nongqai and notes from a CR Prance esq. of Port St.Johns.

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Thank You Steen......

The mystery is solved.....

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Thanks all, most helpful. I have 2 oficers epauletts with normal SAC.
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I am a new member of this site. I am interested in anything related to the South African Constabulary.

I am most interested in this conversation. I also have a vertical badge, but without a backing and round eyelets. Has anyone seen this one before?

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