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Old 14-08-08, 10:34 AM
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Default Royal Ulster Rifles King's Crown post war beret badge

http://bosleys.co.uk/

Does any one know what the badge at No 84 Royal Ulster Rifles scarce white metal beret badge circa 1947-52.looks like as I don't have the July Postal Auction catalogue but am intrigued?

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Old 16-08-08, 08:26 PM
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Alan, I've just taken a pic of it for you but I'll post it later as uploading it is a right rigmorole on my set up and I've not got time now.
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Old 17-08-08, 11:34 AM
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Mike,

Thank you very much. That certainly is a new one on me.

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Alan, I've just taken a pic of it for you but I'll post it later as uploading it is a right rigmorole on my set up and I've not got time now.
Mike
Catching up on an old thread - missed it first time. This is believed to be a regimental design (as opposed to a WO issued item), I have seen speculation that is if for the FSC (the Rifle Brigade has similiar smaller badges for the same purpose). No trace of sealing has come to light that I know of.

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Old 14-05-17, 08:59 AM
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Bringing an old thread back after 9 years of looking! Can anyone tell me whether the Bosleys' one was die cast or struck?
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Old 15-05-17, 10:47 AM
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As yet I cannot find a picture of the badge in wear. However it is more likely to be a WOs badge rather than an ORs. As for beret or FSC the jury's out.

However whilst the RUR ORs did wear khaki GS caps with full sized badges in WW2. It is said that the GS caps were tailored under regtl arrangements to resemble caubeens. The AB Bde ORs wearing full sized badges with green backing on maroon berets. WOs and Offr wearing the silver AB badge discussed elsewhere.

WW2 officers and WOs wore green FSC with boss badges.

Post 1954 the caubeen seems to have been the norm for all ranks. The Queen's Crown North Irish Bde badge was worn on a green caubeen as shown in this news clip where the Q/C is clear at 1.31 mins. I believe this is the Bn leaving Cyprus in 1959.

However whilst the RUR were in Korea they did indeed wear berets. They appear to be khaki with a rifle green backing. This soldier has a full sized ORs cap badge. As yet I can't find a picture of an Offr or WO.

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Old 16-05-17, 10:02 AM
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I thought that was the pre war badge worn in Hong Kong.
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Old 16-05-17, 10:11 AM
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Thanks. What's your source of this information?

The 1st Bn was in Hong Kong in the 1930s. I would expect them to be in Pith helmets as that was the normal headdress for Garrison Troops of the time.

Not the RUR but the CG: https://www.hongkongheritage.org/Pag...Nn8tSLVARk0w==

However they may have had side caps for undress which could be a contender.
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Old 16-05-17, 11:33 AM
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The RUR were in Hong Kong in 1951. There is a batch of badges reportedly to have been made there. But it is a thinner version than the one shown. I'm not at home so can't post a pic of the badge. But sure another forum member will have one.
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Old 16-05-17, 01:13 PM
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Sorry there is some error here.

The Bn were not in HK in 1951 as they landed in Korea at Pusan in Nov 1950.

Please see this picture of them embarking from the UK:

http://royalirishrangers.co.uk/picts/korea1.jpg

It's dated 1 October 1950. The rest of the Brigade travelled with them at the same time leaving early/mid Oct and disembarking in Korea some 4 weeks later.

So whilst they may have stopped off in HK en-route to Korea they were not garrison troops and had previously been based in east Anglia.
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Old 16-05-17, 01:25 PM
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I believe they were in HK after Korea.
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Old 16-05-17, 01:33 PM
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Checking with adviser to RUR museum ref insignia. I could be wrong! but I'm pretty certain it's '30's...wait out. A heavy sil. plate version often turns up but they are pricey.

I was wrong - a 'stumpie' & believed never to have been worn, certainly NO photographic evidence exists I'm assured.

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Sorry boys, a 'stumpie' & believed never to have been worn.
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Old 16-05-17, 02:55 PM
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Sorry what's a stumpie?
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Old 16-05-17, 03:02 PM
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I believe they were in HK after Korea.
I have checked with the IWM records and they were indeed in HK after Korea, until they moved to Germany in 1954.

What headdress was day to day wear in HK is another line of research but at the Freedom of Belfast parade in 1954 the whole Bn are in caubeens.

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