Cadets of Training Area 19 B Hornsby

[Investment]

Hi,

I recently visited the museum at Victoria Barracks in Sydney and took photos (unfortunately not the best) of the picture, which Kingsley mentioned in the post below.

“Coincidences do happen. Victoria Barracks museum has an old Compulsory Training cadet photo, all unknown' of course. However one of the kids was my uncle (born in 1899 and lived to the age of 97). I have the same photo with the name of the officer as well. My uncle apparently did "time" in detention at North Head for failing to do all his drills, but I could never get him to talk about it.”

The cadets are all wearing numeral 19, which represented the 19th (Kuring-Gai) Infantry. I’ve attached a picture showing the type of brass numeral worn by Kingsley’s uncle during 1917.

The following areas, Beecroft, Eastwood, Fairfield, Gladesville, Gordon, Granville, Guildford, Hornsby (suburb on the upper north shore of Sydney), Hunters Hill, Parramatta, Ryde and Woolwich, all formed part of the 19th (Kuring-Gai) Infantry.

Kingsley, I would be interested to learn if you can identify, which cadet is your uncle in the picture.

Cheers,

Invest

[slick_mick]

I'd like to know where in Hornsby that picture was taken as I live there now.

Mick

[Investment]

G'day Mick,

I'd like to know, as well mate

Cheers,

Invest

[kingsley]

Hi, an interesting post, quite out of the blue.
My uncle is definitely the tall boy standing on the right of the photo. I have an original photo held by the family ever since, and in better condition than the Vic Barracks one.

His name was Roy Rohrman (my mother's older brother) and my understanding is that he attended Chatswood public school. This may not be correct because I understand that Chatswood was in Area 18 not 19. The teacher's name (which my uncle actually told me) was not Martin but Concannon. Not sure how you could research this.

Have a look at another photo which I bought in Hornsby a few years ago. It is definitly pre-AIF, I would think 1912 or 1913. It is still in its original frame so there is some reflection problem. Fortunately his name was on the back: Lieut Sydney Albert Middleton. I sent away for his service record and he rose to high rank in WW1 and survived the war. What fascinates me about it is that he has a 19th Kuringai Rgt cap badge and "18 Inf" on his collars. One possible explanation is that he was a founding cadre member transferred from whichever came first, probably the 19th, in order to establish the neighbouring 18th.

I will post this picture when I am able to access my other computer.

I have another amazing Senior Cadets picture from the same period, this time of my father and his class, winning a Drill Competition shield in 1917 or 1918. They are wearing numeral 32 on their hats, the district in Sydney's inner west (Balmain, Leichhardt, Drummoyne). I have been looking for a numeral 32 for many years but never seen one.

[Tinto]

Originally Posted by kingsley

Hi, an interesting post, quite out of the blue.
My uncle is definitely the tall boy standing on the right of the photo. I have an original photo held by the family ever since, and in better condition than the Vic Barracks one.

His name was Roy Rohrman (my mother's older brother) and my understanding is that he attended Chatswood public school. This may not be correct because I understand that Chatswood was in Area 18 not 19. The teacher's name (which my uncle actually told me) was not Martin but Concannon. Not sure how you could research this.

Have a look at another photo which I bought in Hornsby a few years ago. It is definitly pre-AIF, I would think 1912 or 1913. It is still in its original frame so there is some reflection problem. Fortunately his name was on the back: Lieut Sydney Albert Middleton. I sent away for his service record and he rose to high rank in WW1 and survived the war. What fascinates me about it is that he has a 19th Kuringai Rgt cap badge and "18 Inf" on his collars. One possible explanation is that he was a founding cadre member transferred from whichever came first, probably the 19th, in order to establish the neighbouring 18th.

I will post this picture when I am able to access my other computer.

I have another amazing Senior Cadets picture from the same period, this time of my father and his class, winning a Drill Competition shield in 1917 or 1918. They are wearing numeral 32 on their hats, the district in Sydney's inner west (Balmain, Leichhardt, Drummoyne). I have been looking for a numeral 32 for many years but never seen one.

Hi, Numeral 32 on TradeMe at the moment:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/antiques-co...-815700248.htm

Cheers, Tinto

[kingsley]

Note 18 Inf on collars

[Investment]

Hi,

I've attached a picture displaying brass numerals 1 and 8 (together representing the 18th), which are similar to those being worn by Lieutenant Middleton.

The following areas, Artarmon, Manly, Mosman and Neutral Bay, all formed part of the 18th (North Sydney) Infantry.

Also displayed is brass numeral 32, which is an example of the type worn by Kingsley’s father and his class mates.

Kingsley, it would be great if you could post the picture of your father wearing his cadet uniform.

Cheers,

Invest