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Old 10-01-16, 11:03 PM
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Very Strange!!!

Despite the OTC insignia to the collars, this young Gentleman appears to be wearing what looks more like a Queen's Westminster Rifles FSC badge?

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Absolutely.

Certainly does not appear to be the Emanuel badge.
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Old 11-01-16, 07:13 AM
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I believe that pre 1908 and the founding of the OTCs the school's cadet corps was affiliated to the QWR hence the use of their design.

http://www.emanuelalumni.org.uk/alum...old-ryley-page

The head is wearing the full sized QWR badge.
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Old 11-01-16, 05:32 PM
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Alan,
You are correct with the QWR connection but not just pre 1908, I have been lucky enough to have been in contact with a man whose grandfather was head boy in 1915, he was in the school cadet corps and was there 4 years, the gentleman was kind enough to send me a scan of his cap badge to keep for my records, it is a bronzed QWR collar but on a slider. Photo attached for you. I have a bronze collar with a brooch fitting which I now take to be the school cadet corps badge, no other fixings seem to have ever been present, I will scan it and attach later.
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Old 12-01-16, 09:26 AM
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From the few photos online it appears that school did not adopt the School OTC badge in 1908 but was still wearing QWR insignia in 1911-12 and possibly longer. This ties in with your Head boy's badge from circa 1911-15.

There is a very clear photo on the school website showing the cadets in 1908 belts and one master with war medals. It could be any time in the 1920s-late 1930s. All are wearing school badges including the officers.

The CCF are wearing Royal Fusilier badges which is not surprising with their Battersea location.

http://www.emanuelalumni.org.uk/alum...-war-years_ccf
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Old 12-01-16, 09:42 AM
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https://emanuelschoolatwar.wordpress...rst-world-war/

Scroll down to the rugby headshot photos and you see the portcullis badge worn on a lapel. This may be your pinbacked 'collar'. Does yours have the SA scroll?

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Old 15-01-16, 08:34 PM
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The badge worn on the lapel in the photo you link to Alan is the cap badge Keith mentioned with the small rose on top of the portcullis. I have attached a scan of the bronze badge I mentioned, as you can see the brooch is the original fixing so I'd say worn by the cadets, these were also worn on the lapel with a small C underneath them,
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Old 27-09-17, 11:12 AM
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Another example of the lapel badge (scroll down to page 4) and this time worn by the prefects and the lapel and also on the school cap:

http://www.wandsworthhistory.org.uk/historian/ryley.pdf
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Although we wore the Royal Fusiliers badge and hackle the Portcullis and Rose was still worn as the CCF collar badge in the late 1960s when I was in the CCF. ORs wore a brass version, officers a white metal.

The same metal badges were worn by the School's Prefect with embroidered versions on cap and blazer.

My battledress shows the collar badge worn.

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Old 27-09-17, 01:34 PM
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Jon

Thank you for confirming that with such excellent photos.

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Those interested in this thread might like to look at this photo currently being offered on Ebay.


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Postcard-...53.m1431.l2649

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Online sources suggest that Wykeham Studios (whose name are on the photo of the young man in pre 1908 VB era pattern uniform) operated form 1910 onwards. As the photo clearly has the post 1908 OTC s/t, yet with the portcullis and crown cap and collar badges, it must date post 1910 but probably pre WW1. I would have thought khaki would have been in use by WW1.

Great photo and thanks for sharing the link.
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Those interested in this thread might like to look at this photo currently being offered on Ebay.


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Postcard-...53.m1431.l2649

Jon
What a great photo and bidding is strong on it.

Am I right in assuming the uniform is grey with red facings?

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Old 15-11-17, 03:31 PM
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Yes I believe that it reflects that worn by the QWR which the school had an affiliation to.
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