24th Lancers

[ukbrits]

Hi Guys,
Opinions wanted on the authenticity of this badge for the 24th Lancers. It is a nice badge which is virtually unbendable and does show some wear on high points.
I am a little suspicious on the shape of the crown but as I don't really collect Cavalry badges I am unaware of any die variations.
Most of the badges I have seen have been slidered to this Regiment.
Many Thanks
UKbrits

[2747andy]

Does not look right to me! The original badges have far more relief/depth.. I cannot access my badges until tomorrow but I tend to think it's a copy! (Peter S should be able to put you right!)

Andy

[matti467]

Be very careful abut these badges and collect with caution! I have seen so many restrikes and heard so much rubbish from vendors, please note the word I have used here, as I am not casting aspersions just going on what I have personally been privy to. Do not pay good money unless you have a cast iron agreement or certainty about the badge and its provenance.
Matti

[matti467]

Further to my last post, the fact that there is a restrike gaunts button for the 27th backs up my scepticism about insignia for these odd war raised units that had been off the army lists for over a hundred years.
Matti

[peter seaman]

Good evening UKbrits,

Sadly the 24th Lancers head dress badge is completely wrong. Especially with regards to the crown. The top of the crown should be more rounded and the lance pennons should overlap the outer circlet more. Both Gaunts and Firmin supplied this regiments insignia to Ordnance and the badge depicted was not produced by either supplier. Andy is correct in his comment about the badge detail.

Regards,

Peter

[ukbrits]

Thank Guys,
I did think it may well be wrong and your opinions have confirmed it for me.
That Tudor crown just didn't look right!
Looks like another badge confined to the junkbox!
Many Thanks
UKbrits

[Paddy]

Peter

Can you please confirm if the 24th badges should be lugged, slidered or if they were produced with both. I have 2 of these badges which are both lugged and I have always been happy with them, especially the one on the red backing. I have seen a few for sale which have had Firmin sliders.

Paddy

[Malcolm Davey]

24th Lancers should be slidered and not lugged,saying that i have an original badge with lugs but you can see the braise behind the crown were originally a slider was fitted.Here are the 3 badges i own.

Malc

[2747andy]

Malc,
I think you are 50% right on this one! I'm sure Peter will confirm one way or the other but I think you'll find genuine examples both lugged and slidered!

Andy

[wright241]

The one in the Cavalry project is lugged and is a 'goodie'.

[Malcolm Davey]

Originally Posted by wright241

The one in the Cavalry project is lugged and is a 'goodie'.

Hi Wright241
I would like to see a picture of the back of that badge if you own it as ive not seen a genuine example of this badge which was originally lugged and not slidered
cheers
Malc

[Keith Blakeman]

I think the nickel looped ones are officer's collars.

[wright241]

Originally Posted by joachim

Hi Wright241
I would like to see a picture of the back of that badge if you own it as ive not seen a genuine example of this badge which was originally lugged and not slidered
cheers
Malc

No problem, will do it over the weekend once I get back to Lux. Rider: I can't remember whether it is 'was' slidered before or not.... But I will post a pic anyway.
David

[2747andy]

Originally Posted by joachim

Hi Wright241
I would like to see a picture of the back of that badge if you own it as ive not seen a genuine example of this badge which was originally lugged and not slidered
cheers
Malc

Malc,
I've both lugged and slidered examples, hence reply! I'll also get some picies on over the weekend!

Andy

[Staffsyeoman]

A propos of nothing really, but the wear on the high points of the crown also appears to have been applied artificially relative to the appearance of the badge (e.g. someone's taken a grinder or such to it to give it 'age')