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Old 22-02-11, 02:31 AM
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Any opinions welcome on this lot please
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Old 22-02-11, 02:53 AM
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Nice, I wouldn't have turned them down. I have a very similar blackened Gloucestershire one myself in my English Line Infantry album. I was told, common thing to do to lessen glare in the trench's.

Nice pieces overall.

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Old 22-02-11, 05:24 AM
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thanks simon
i appreciate your comments.
i am assuming these are post ww1 badges. would that be correct?
im mainly an aussie badge collector with an interest in early british up to and including ww1
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Old 22-02-11, 07:53 AM
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Hi BC,

The Cheshire badge changed pattern in 1922, yours is all brass so may be economy 1916 issue, will have a closer look on my pc later. The Glosters regular battalions did not wear blackened badges, 4th Batt a rifle batt did but they wore a blank plinth Sphinx version of the 5th and 6th TF battalions. The Lincs is pre 1946. They look ok, crimp mark to South Lancs slider a good sign butcommon to have brazing holes on these, cheers Dean.
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Old 22-02-11, 09:32 AM
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thanks dean
thanks for your comments.
it would be nice if the Cheshire badge was the economy 1916 issue.
ive never had a blackened Glosters but thanks for your comments.
the South Lancs did worry me due to the lack of brazing holes.
having said all this, i did like the length of all the sliders. not the usual short version
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Old 22-02-11, 10:20 AM
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Hi again BC,

I quite like your Cheshires as have one with a broken slider very similar.

Having a closer look I also have a blackened Glosters same as yours with slider. No doubt a specialist in this area will be along to educate us both.
The sliders look good and sturdy on them all - where did you source them as this may be a guide.

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Old 22-02-11, 10:25 AM
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Hi BC,

I'm unsure if my opinions are correct and if I'm wrong, my apologies, the Glosters is I think, wrong, it's more like the type of badge that our Welsh Taxi-car or springmeadow used to sell, ie, blackened and then rubbed to look old ??

The slider on the Lincs looks remarkably like the ones being sold on ebay at the moment, I think the return leg on the bend is a little too long, obviously just my thoughts and I'm nearly always wrong !!

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Old 22-02-11, 10:33 AM
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Yes looking at the rear of the Lincs now I can see it on my PC it may be wrong, the tangs look a bit odd. Yes as dave said has it come fromn a likely suspect - the backing cloths look very new.

Also there are a couple of threads about 4th Bn Glosters badges and the thrust is they are not a rifle battalion and may not have worn blackened badges at all. Gaylor and K&K are known for a few errors and I may have continued it.

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Old 22-02-11, 12:15 PM
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thanks guys
appreciate your comments.
they came all together from a deceased estate, or so i was told from the seller. so unlikely any help.
the tangs on the lincs are short, but look like they have been cliped?
the colouring of the glosters is also unusual, however, i dont think its in the taxicar mode.
dave, i would have thought your comments are more often correct? good to have you back mate.
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Old 22-02-11, 12:20 PM
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The Glosters badge is not TF. The TF badge had a blank plinth.
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Old 22-02-11, 02:07 PM
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My blackened Gloucestershire is from a belt circa 1914-18. I was told on here the blacking was sometimes done to reduce glare as it was suck a large shiny badge. Not something recommended, especially as it was in the center of your forehead. Who said it was TF.

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Old 22-02-11, 05:10 PM
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Mooke describes the 4th Bn badge and they were TF.
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Old 22-02-11, 05:18 PM
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This being the said TF badge.
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Old 22-02-11, 05:23 PM
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My blackened Gloucestershire is from a belt circa 1914-18. I was told on here the blacking was sometimes done to reduce glare as it was suck a large shiny badge. Not something recommended, especially as it was in the center of your forehead. Who said it was TF.

Simon.
Hi Simon,

Without wishing to dispute what you say re the Glosters badge, I don't know enough to do so anyway but I find it hard to believe that should the badge be blackened to reduce glare etc, I honestly do not think that the back would be blackened too, BC's appears be so but yours isn't, or is it my tired old eyes ??

Again, just my opinion !!

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Old 22-02-11, 05:36 PM
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This is the blackened WW1 Gloucestershire. Front and back. Got this from period belt with 40+ others on it.

I originally asked if it could be a TF as it was blackened, but I was told by the team this was a common thing in the trench's to reduce glare.

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