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Old 22-10-17, 07:21 PM
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The slouch hats in your photo were authorised for wear in 1901 (they had been worn in South Africa) and then replaced by peaked caps in 1905. VB/Yeomanry and TF continued to wear then for a few years after that but I suspect your photos are VB. The seem to all have the VB cloth shoulder titles with the separate battalion numbers below.
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Old 22-10-17, 07:58 PM
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On Abe Books there is a book entitled:

"History of the 2nd East Riding of Yorkshire, Royal Garrison Artillery (Volunteers) Hull"
1907
The naming of Volunteer Artillery units changed to RGA (Vols) in 1902.

Your queery related to a time prior to that.

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Old 22-10-17, 10:06 PM
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Informal Sgts group. TF? Did Cyclist Bttn uniform change in 1908-14?
5th Bn. TF wore blackened brass cap badges, those in the photo are not blackened.
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Old 23-10-17, 06:09 PM
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5th Bn. TF wore blackened brass cap badges, those in the photo are not blackened.
With 2 photos of a chap who was certainly in 5th Cyclist Bttn from 1908, it's clear not all badges were blackened. I wonder if this happened in the War? The larger Sgts group is attached. I suspect these are not all 5th. I suppose the images may be prior to 1908 and he could have been in the VB still?
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The naming of Volunteer Artillery units changed to RGA (Vols) in 1902.
Your queery related to a time prior to that.
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Old 23-10-17, 06:24 PM
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Like many TF BB badges I think they also wore standard ones in khaki. Post 1915 the issued badges would be bimetal.
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Old 23-10-17, 06:33 PM
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Can anyone provide a date for these dirty pips please?
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Old 23-10-17, 06:34 PM
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How about this Dark Green and grey arm band?
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With 2 photos of a chap who was certainly in 5th Cyclist Bttn from 1908, it's clear not all badges were blackened. I wonder if this happened in the War? The larger Sgts group is attached. I suspect these are not all 5th. I suppose the images may be prior to 1908 and he could have been in the VB still?
Going by those mooeys I'd say pre-1908 period:
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Going by those mooeys I'd say pre-1908 period:
Excuse my ignorance. What's a mooey?

He was promoted Sgt and then Colour Sgt in 1905. This would also indicate pre-1908 - most likely 1905, because I can only see Sgt Rank insignia.

He received a TFEM in 1909. As this is not showing in the Sgts image, it is more evidence this was 1 VB rather than 5th TF.

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John Brown received his Commission in 5/E Yorks in March 1915 and went to France in Oct 1916, as 2/Lt.
This image shows 2 medal ribbons. TFEM (on right) and another. Can anyone help identify the left ribbon? He gained a TFWM. Could that have been worn in 1915/16?
It looks like the wrong colours to me.
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This is John Brown's Wedding in 1918. No medal ribbons on show. What are the 2 chevrons on his arm please.
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Old 24-10-17, 07:53 AM
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The inverted chevrons are overseas service stripes for each year he had served overseas. Two chevrons tie up with the 1916 date.
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Excuse my ignorance. What's a mooey?

He was promoted Sgt and then Colour Sgt in 1905. This would also indicate pre-1908 - most likely 1905, because I can only see Sgt Rank insignia.

He received a TFEM in 1909. As this is not showing in the Sgts image, it is more evidence this was 1 VB rather than 5th TF.
Mooey=moustache.
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Old 24-10-17, 08:25 AM
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John Brown received his Commission in 5/E Yorks in March 1915 and went to France in Oct 1916, as 2/Lt.
This image shows 2 medal ribbons. TFEM (on right) and another. Can anyone help identify the left ribbon? He gained a TFWM. Could that have been worn in 1915/16?
It looks like the wrong colours to me.
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The TFWM was introduced in April 1920. The left ribbon could possibly be the MC.
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