SWB- all white metal ??

[Peter Brydon]

I would appreciate any comments on this badge which is all white metal with a slider marked J.R. Gaunt London.

Thanks

P.B.

[54Bty]

I would check the makers mark, it looks to be the dreaded "dot in the middle and 15mm long" fake.

Marc

[Phil2M]

Hi Peter,

Isnt that the 1970s re strike mark?

Phil

[Phil2M]

Sorry marc, I didn't refresh the screen before posting.

[Peter Brydon]

Thanks Marc and Phil,

Peter

[2747andy]

Peter,
Not a Restrike but a aged fake! As Phil and Marc have already observed the MM is a common post 1970s repro stamp! There is an all Wm SWB, they are quite scarce and generally lugged! Apart from the modern repro slider, the other giveaways are the unsymmetrical letters in "EGYPT" and the and overall poor definition to the wreath of immortels!

I suspect if cleaned it would look even worse?

Best regards

Andy

[Frank Kelley]

Hello Peter,
I've never seen a real one on a slider and would not even consider buying any that are, but, of course you can dismiss that particular one straight away!
Regards Frank

Originally Posted by Peter Brydon

I would appreciate any comments on this badge which is all white metal with a slider marked J.R. Gaunt London.

Thanks

P.B.

[BROOKIES]

Peter.

Here's what you should be looking for.

P8270352.jpg P8270353.jpg

Ta.

[2747andy]

Brookies,
sorry but I'm pretty sure the badge you show is not a good example either and at best is a silvered or silver plated example and not the early Wm badge! They have quite distinctive unvoided areas around "S", "B" and the swags at 12 o'clock and far better detailing. I'd check with your Dad, but I think your's is just a lugged version of the badge Peter opened the thread with!

Best regards

Andy

[BROOKIES]

Andy,

Here's the other along with a plated version, slider version (all of which he's happy with) and a chrome version jut to round of.

Ta.

P8270350.jpg P8270351.jpg

P8270354.jpg P8270355.jpg

P8270360.jpg P8270361.jpg

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[2747andy]

Thanks for the reply and the images, the lugged plated one is a nice pre 1903 that has been plated? The Silver badge is a lovely badge too, despite being a poor strike! The slidered badge is 100% wrong, the small pattern is a common fake and only ever produced in Bim for ORs, but does appear in OSD and Sil/SP for Offrs. Please don't think I'm trying to start a peeing match, and you probably won't like to hear this or possibly agree, but I assure you the small pattern badge you show with a slider is a repro!

Best regards

Andy