Brass 1916 Rifle Brigade cap badge - British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum

sapper533 · #1 05-11-17, 02:16 PM

Hi guys
I don't think this badge appears on the list of 1916 Economy badges is it therefore a fake.
Cheers
Sean

sapper533 · #2 05-11-17, 02:17 PM

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manchesters · #3 05-11-17, 02:28 PM

Sean,

Are you sure its not a WM one with a coat of varnish?

regards

sapper533 · #4 05-11-17, 02:39 PM

Positive it's not wm with a coating, it's a nice clear strike, lots of detail fron and back, if I remember rightly it came from a tiny shop in Preston in 1976 for £1.50. The only other thing I would say is that the it isn't as thick as the wm badges.
Here it is again next to the wm badges.

Jelly Terror · #5 05-11-17, 02:58 PM

Not contesting it’s G/M, but I once owned a Norfolk Regiment badge that looked decidedly brass until it was cleaned:

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It wasn’t varnished, though I have had many a badge that had been, and has a brassy appearance as a result.

JT

sapper533 · #6 05-11-17, 03:08 PM

Something that has just dawned on me that is now blindingly obvious............it has WW1 battle honours and this pattern wasn't sealed until 1927 lol so even if it brass it can't be an economy one lol.
Also I'll give it a clean but it definitely looks brass with no coating on.
Cheers
Sean

Jelly Terror · #7 05-11-17, 03:13 PM

In your group photo, the badge appears to have ‘whiter’ areas. This may just be the lighting, of course:

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(Hope it’s okay to use your image to illustrate the point?)

Regards,

JT

leigh kitchen · #8 05-11-17, 03:19 PM

The badge shown is the post-WWI pattern isn't it?

Presumably some were made in brass with a silver coloured coating.
I remember a dealer in Cambridge back about1980, had one in acid to remove the remnants of the coating as he had a buyer for it as a WWI brass economy.

I have these two, yellow metal with a silver coloured coating, I think chrome, the well worn example acquired in 2005, labelled as an "NCOs pattern", the a few months ago.

Private purchase?

Both from the same die by the look of them.

Alan O · #9 05-11-17, 03:44 PM

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/the-rifle...EAAOSwSv1XlK3e

One with the brass showing through but with the majority of the plate intact. I suspect it's a commercially sold badge rather than an issued one which would have conformed to the s/p card.

leigh kitchen · #10 05-11-17, 03:56 PM

Looks like the same die as the two I show.

sapper533 · #11 08-11-17, 06:31 PM

Fellas when you're right you're right........what was an obviously brass back and front, a stiff brush and some brasso is now a lovely white metal RB cap badge
Cheers folks
Sean

leigh kitchen · #12 08-11-17, 06:41 PM

Whereas my two are definitely yellow metal with a white metal plating........

grumpy · #13 08-11-17, 07:13 PM

Absolutely no sense in striking an economy GM RB badge ......... the economies made were not in materials but in removing the complication of bi-metal.

leigh kitchen · #14 08-11-17, 07:24 PM

The badges shown are'nt WWI economy, they're a later pattern.
Presumably they're a private purchase with a chrome or similar silver coloured finish.

grumpy · #15 08-11-17, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leigh kitchen

The badges shown are'nt WWI economy, they're a later pattern.
Presumably they're a private purchase with a chrome or similar silver coloured finish.

That's as may be but I was replying to the OP ......... its not economy for my reason and for your reason!

So

ITS NOT ECONOMY ITS NOT ECONOMY.