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Old 18-03-18, 04:23 PM
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Default Transkei Mounted Rifles

Recently I acquired a shoulder title to the 19th TMR, which I was very lucky to get - dealer has misplaced and only after visiting the said dealer found the title under two other badges.

Attached are some images. I have also included a puggaree and cap badge from the collection.
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Old 18-03-18, 04:48 PM
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Here is another TMR badge though there is, I believe, so debate about that.
Shahl, looking at all the badges you have posted, you have a superb collection of rare SA badges, well done!!!
Cheers,
Alex
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Old 18-03-18, 05:46 PM
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Tx Alex ... will share more as not much fun keeping them to myself. Wish I had more time to research, but that will come no doubt once my kids leave home and I retire
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Old 18-03-18, 05:49 PM
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On a different note is the TMR debate regarding the badge potentially being the NZ Taranaki Mounted Rifes?
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Old 19-03-18, 10:09 AM
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No, I think it was Transvaal or something like that, though I believe it's accepted as Transkei now. Andrew (and Steven) would be more knowledgeable than me though...
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Old 19-03-18, 05:19 PM
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Hi Alex, very flattering. I have it as Transkei, but not to say that the same badge wasn't used by another unit in the commonwealth. This was done to save die costs. Shaldm, some nice items you have posted recently. Well done. Andrew
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Old 19-03-18, 09:38 PM
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Tx Alex / Andrew
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Old 23-03-18, 01:32 AM
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Curzon indicates that the title T.M.R. was worn on the head dress of the detachments of the Transvaal Mounted Rifles that served in the Natal Rebellion in 1906.

He goes on to state that it was placed above the distinctive badge of the unit e.g. I.L.H., S.A.L.H.
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Old 23-03-18, 12:21 PM
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Hi, you can see an example in my post http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...ad.php?t=49844 . Regards Andrew
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Old 24-03-18, 06:29 AM
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They did, but, only for those few weeks in that year and they were actually made in South Africa, either in Natal, on campaign, or in Johannesburg as they formed, whilst their regimental badges were made in Great Britain in common with the rest of the Transvaal Volunteer Force.

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Curzon indicates that the title T.M.R. was worn on the head dress of the detachments of the Transvaal Mounted Rifles that served in the Natal Rebellion in 1906.

He goes on to state that it was placed above the distinctive badge of the unit e.g. I.L.H., S.A.L.H.

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Old 24-03-18, 11:24 AM
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Tx both for info.
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Old 29-03-18, 10:02 AM
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I dug out the following info, which may be of interest.

There were two different units named Transkei Mounted Rifles.

The first was a volunteer unit in the Cape Colonial Forces. It was formed in 1894, and amalgamated with the Border Light Horse and the Tembuland Light Horse in 1909, to form the Cape Light Horse.

Dress regulations approved in 1896 prescribed a grey smasher hat with a blue and white spotted puggaree, and "monogram of the corps in white metal on side". Might this be the badge posted by Alex in post #2?

The second TMR was an Active Citizen Force unit in the Union Defence Forces. It was established in 1913 as the 19th Mounted Rifles (Transkei Mounted Rifles), and disbanded in 1929.

The insignia posted by shahldm in post #1 clearly relate to this unit.
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Old 29-03-18, 04:45 PM
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Hi Arthur
That is excellent info, thanks.
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Alex
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