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Default 22nd Battalion CEF. Cap badges and collars

Photo showing the 22nd Batt. 1st WW cap badges with the nowadays IMO scarce beaver collars, first issued to the original contingent.Library and Archives Canada/PA-008063

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Yes scarce, C22s almost impossible, and all shoulder numbers are uncommon.
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Somewhere, there was a discussion about the C/22 collars, and in the 22nd Bn only the officers wore them?
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Somewhere, there was a discussion about the C/22 collars, and in the 22nd Bn only the officers wore them?
I think you are right Bill.I can tell that in these parts the collars are worth their weight in gold. I still haven't found yet a period photograph showing an officer of the 22nd Batt. wearing the beaver collars.

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Major C. Fontaine MC. 22nd Battalion,(Quebec Regiment), Canadian Expeditionary Force. © IWM (HU 122206)





Lieutenant E Streun. 22nd Battalion, (Quebec Regiment), Canadian Expeditionary Force. © IWM (HU 118709)

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Great post with some great badges and pictures. Here is an example of a 22nd interim cap badge with a "Caron Bros Montreal 1915" silver plated leaf. On the leaf is a "22" done in gilt on sterling silver. A beautiful cap badge in the hand.
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That's a great find Don and, it's probably as scarce as a pair of 22nd Bn. beaver collars.

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That is one scarce badge Don. Good catch.
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nice one Don!

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Bonjour ou bonsoir à tous,
Je suis content de revoir ce post.
Le 22ème (Vandoss) est toujours considéré comme un bataillon exceptionnel ici dans ma petite région.
Ils ont combattu à Vimy Ridge, Hill 60, et surtout se sont fait massacrer fin août 1918 à Chérisy, le long de la route Arras Cambrai
"À la fin de la Première Guerre mondiale, le 22e Bataillon compte 1 074 morts et 2 887 blessés ; ce qui représente une perte de 67 % de l'effectif total de 5 919 militaires" cf le net.
Ici on ne les a pas oubliés.Je suis collectionneur mais pour le souvenir.


Hello or good evening everyone,
I'm happy to review this post.
The 22nd (Vandoss) is still considered an exceptional battalion here in my small region.
They fought at Vimy Ridge, Hill 60 and especially were massacred at the end of August 1918 in Chérisy, along the Arras Cambrai road
"At the end of the First World War, the 22nd Battalion has 1,074 dead and 2,887 wounded, which represents a 67% loss of the total strength of 5,919 soldiers", see the net.
Here we have not forgotten them. I am a collector but for the memory.

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Merci Jean-Paul.
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Default The "22" Beaver Badge

If you look in Charlton's catalogue you also see an example of the 22nd Bn badge with the "22" on it. Is it certain that the 22 was added to the beaver badge before the end of WW!? If it came into use at the end of WW1 was it a fixture from that time onward? Obviously the older badges would take time to run through the system.

Are there known tells of design of the die or maker marks or badge finish that define a badge as clearly being a CEF badge of the 22nd? That is to say, is there a way of dating a beaver badge with or without a 22 on it? There are also, out there, lots of 22nd Bn badges with a white metal or silver overlay on them. Did all of these occur in the mid war period up until the 1952 period of the change over of the crown?

It can be confusing when a unit uses basically the same badge for over a century.
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