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Old 08-07-11, 04:52 PM
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Default RISING SUN – ORIGINAL OR RESTRIKE?

Can Forum members offer an opinion – original or restrike?

The badge is maker marked: TIPTAFT B'HAM. The slider is stamped: J.W.TIPTAFT & SON LTD / BIRMINGHAM.

Many thanks in advance.

Kind regards, Malcolm.
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Old 08-07-11, 05:01 PM
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Can Forum members offer an opinion – original or restrike?

The badge is maker marked: TIPTAFT B'HAM. The slider is stamped: J.W.TIPTAFT & SON LTD / BIRMINGHAM.

Many thanks in advance.

Kind regards, Malcolm.
Without doubt 100% genuine. In my experience, slidered Rising Sun badges are British made, in the case of your example this is confirmed with the Tiptaft makers mark (which dates it to the WW1 period). British examples (especially markers marked) do fetch a good price.

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Old 08-07-11, 05:18 PM
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Can Forum members offer an opinion – original or restrike?

The badge is maker marked: TIPTAFT B'HAM. The slider is stamped: J.W.TIPTAFT & SON LTD / BIRMINGHAM.

Many thanks in advance.

Kind regards, Malcolm.
Malcolm,
as already mentioned quite collectable... £75-100+

Andy
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Old 08-07-11, 05:30 PM
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Hello Paul & Andy,

Thank you very much for the replies and for the good news!

Kind regards, Malcolm.
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Old 09-07-11, 01:43 AM
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Great badge Malcolm, one that has evaded by cluches for now, but, someday.......,

Dave
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Old 09-07-11, 03:38 PM
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Default Tiptaft

...these Tiptaft critters were made for the army very early in WW1 before the badge-making tools/dies were available in Oz, and as such, considered "choice"
Mine was an accidental purchase before their uniqueness was made public.
Yes, I have one. No, it is not for sale!
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Old 10-07-11, 07:15 AM
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G'day Malcolm

I have had a good look at your badge and it is exactly the same as one that I have which came from a relatives husband who served in WW1, I have all his badges and medals.

The back of the badge has the name on it twice, once on the slider and the other on the flat section between the crown and suns rays to the left of the slider.

The Tiptaft rising suns have the suns rays with all sorts of daggy bits on them, others have smooth suns rays, they are quite different to other makes.

There is another thread on Tiptaft rising suns in the Aussie section under the Rising Sun heading, have a look as there are several posts on this thread.

Yes yours is a good one well done. All WW1 Rising Suns are hard to find and expensive, some have sliders, some lugs and I also have one (from the same collection) that has a very long pin and has not had lugs or a slider, it is brass rather than being blackened.

I hope that this helps.

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Phil.
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Old 10-07-11, 12:01 PM
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...these Tiptaft critters were made for the army very early in WW1 before the badge-making tools/dies were available in Oz, and as such, considered "choice"
Mine was an accidental purchase before their uniqueness was made public.
Yes, I have one. No, it is not for sale!
Doc B
Hi doc
Can you please explain what you mean by "before the badge-making tools/dies were available in Oz"
Australians were wearing these badges from 1905 roughly and one of the main suppliers was stokes in Melbourne. They all had lugs and the slider is particular to UK made badges.
There are many opinions on when the tiptaft badges were issued. There is evidence that Gaunt produced some officer’s badges pre ww1 and so can be assumed tiptaft also provided badges. However, there is a thought that the tiptaft badges didn’t start reaching the troops until 1916 when the troops found themselves in big numbers in England and France. Demand for replacement badges exceeding the delivery from Australia causing locally sourced badges eg tiptaft, gaunt
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Old 10-07-11, 03:43 PM
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Default Tiptaft redux

Hi there, badgecollector,
I like your comments on the rising sun badge and they make a lot more sense than did mine. I was going on supposition, not published facts. Oz "stuff" is not my strong point, but I do like the occasional one to round out the collection.
Thanks again for your comments and observation.
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Old 11-07-11, 10:54 AM
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Hi Dr B
No worries mate.
Do you have any rising suns? Are you looking for one?
I have a few spares for trade
http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...hp?albumid=871
BC
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Old 12-07-11, 12:35 PM
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Hello Dave, Dr B and Phil,

Sorry for the delay in sending a 'thank you' but I have been off line for a few days, hopefully now sorted.

I have found all the comments very interesting.

Kind regards, Malcolm.
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