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Old 28-02-17, 09:30 AM
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I have quite a few swagger sticks. As well I have 3 riding crops with a stag handle. One is plain while the other two have a crest for the Lord Strathconas Horse and are named. Any way to date these? Cheers Brian
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I take it there are no hallmarks?

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Are those "L" shaped whips (crops grow in fields)? If so properly described as hunting whips. The L piece is used for opening gates.

And rather than date the sticks can you not date the owner's service?

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This may be of interest JT, QWR regimental routine from February 1921 concerning walking out dress,
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Hi Wilf,

Thanks for that, a great piece of info.

Would it be possible to send me a nice scan of this (to royshadbolt@me.com) along with details of the document it is in - date/title etc?

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I will sort that later for you Roy, no problem,
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Been doing some research. The stick marked J Bell, he was lost in Korea 1953. No record found for BC Rutherford so anything after WW1 is not available to view unless they were lost. Seems to be more wear on the leather so must have survived but may be ww2 or Korea. The unmarked stick is different construction so might be older? Cheers Brian
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This may be of interest JT, QWR regimental routine from February 1921 concerning walking out dress,
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Wilf,

Thanks for posting.

So they had no choice... they were ordered to carry them. Would this also mean that 'regimental canes' would not have been private purchase items?

Probably excruciatingly obvious, but what does 'B.R.O.' stand for?

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I should think BRO and DRO relates to Battalion and Divisional Routine Orders. Regards, Paul.
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. . . No record found for BC Rutherford so anything after WW1 is not available to view unless they were lost. Seems to be more wear on the leather so must have survived but may be ww2 or Korea. . . .
Found this in 2015 issue of The Strathconian (pdf) and may fit.

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. . . the Commanding Officer of the 3rd Battalion of Princess Patricia’s Canadian Light Infantry, comes from family of Strathcona heritage. His father, Lieutenant Bruce Rutherford, commanded a tank troop in the Korean War, . . .
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Jan 30, 1926 - Dec 31, 2013

. . . Bruce had a distinguished career in the Canadian Army, serving with the Royal Canadian Dragoons at the end of the Second World War, before taking his commission and serving as a “Strathcona” from 1949 to 1972, including service in Korea. Bruce truly loved soldiering, caring deeply for those with whom he served, developing a reputation as an outstanding leader, tactician, and trainer of a generation of this country’s troopers. . . .
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That would certainly fit. Thank you for that info. Cheers Brian
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Another snippet for you mate, this from the October 1920 orders showing the canes were on sale in the canteen,
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Thanks, Wilf. Great piece of info.
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This picture is from 1924, showing use of the swagger stick by OR. His cap looks to be one of the early peaked Brodrick caps.

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I think this picture must be from around the time. Slightly different swagger stick.

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This picture is from 1924, showing use of the swagger stick by OR. His cap looks to be one of the early peaked Brodrick caps.

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Thanks, Irv.

Is that stick a bit shorter than others, or perhaps at an angle to the camera?

Were they of a standard/approved length, I wonder?

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