Lancers terminology, help

[Just]

Hello british Gentlemen

why do you call a 17th Lancers cap badge, 17th Lancers motto ?

a motto isn't a cap badge, no ?

Or Glory is a motto, not a badge.....

thanks for answers
cordially
Didier

[Mike H]

Hi Didier,the 17th,17th/21st,Queens Royal Lancers and now the Royal Lancers have always used the term "Motto" rather than cap badge.
Im sure one of the ex Lancer members will enlighten us as to why they use the term "Motto" rather than cap/beret badge.

[leigh kitchen]

Because the symbol & wording represent "Death or Glory"

[grenadierguardsman]

Originally Posted by Just

Hello british Gentlemen

why do you call a 17th Lancers cap badge, 17th Lancers motto ?

a motto isn't a cap badge, no ?

Or Glory is a motto, not a badge.....

thanks for answers
cordially
Didier

Don't call it a badge, you'll be in for some trouble.
Andy

[altcar73]

Despite what the regiment call it, its interesting that the Ministry of Defence and the manufacturers (Firmin) refer to it as a "cap badge".

Dave.

[Frank Kelley]

Well, it is worn on a cap, after all.

Originally Posted by altcar73

Despite what the regiment call it, its interesting that the Ministry of Defence and the manufacturers (Firmin) refer to it as a "cap badge".

Dave.

[peter monahan]

'No reason, its just a tradition!' Like many hoary military traditions, there was undoubtedly a reason, good or otherwise, at some point in the past and it is perpetuated now because it's traditional and because 'it distinguishes us from those other [common] regiments.' And what MiniDef chooses to call it is not our concern!

Not too long ago I was part of military displayof WWI uniforms and kit. One of our 'props' was a wooden box containing an aluminium cook pot, insulated with straw to keep the food warm as it as carried up to the trenches. We call it a 'haybox'. The modern Militia [Territorial] types who saw it were absolutley gobsmacked because they call their plastic and metal, high tech insulated food containers 'hayboxes' but have no idea why! Except, of course, 'That's what the RSM calls it!'

[altcar73]

Sorry to split hairs. That's interesting, but I suspect that when the regiment wish to re-order cap badges they refer to them as such otherwise the "system" would not have a clue what they were asking for. When you say that what the MoD call them is none of your concern, it is when the regiment want a new supply! As you say its a regimental thing. But its a badge and as someone else has already pointed out, its worn on a cap. So, its a cap badge.

Dave.

[Paul Spellman]

Originally Posted by peter monahan

'No reason, its just a tradition!' Like many hoary military traditions, there was undoubtedly a reason, good or otherwise, at some point in the past and it is perpetuated now because it's traditional and because 'it distinguishes us from those other [common] regiments.' And what MiniDef chooses to call it is not our concern!

Not too long ago I was part of military displayof WWI uniforms and kit. One of our 'props' was a wooden box containing an aluminium cook pot, insulated with straw to keep the food warm as it as carried up to the trenches. We call it a 'haybox'. The modern Militia [Territorial] types who saw it were absolutley gobsmacked because they call their plastic and metal, high tech insulated food containers 'hayboxes' but have no idea why! Except, of course, 'That's what the RSM calls it!'

Ha ha!
We used the heavy metal insulated containers which we called hayboxes, also the Norgies (Norwegian Containers) which were plastic. The RAF had posh ones which had a little tray of charcoal that would slip in, they caleed theirs Hotlocks.
Thanks for the memories lol
Paul