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Old 28-03-17, 12:30 PM
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Default 1st Queen's Own Royal West Kent Regiment

© IWM (F 3552) Men of the 1st Queen's Own Royal West Kent Regiment in a section of trench named 'Pudding Lane', 4th Division near Roubaix, 3 April 1940.
Notice the inverted triangular patch on the left arm on the private on the right...Could it be an early Regimental patch ???

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I think that this photo was possibly taken the same day.

Complete with the local paper.

There is also a triangle on the arm of the man with the helmet with the three coloured flash.
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If I was to see the latter photo I'd say at first glance it was a re-enactor shot, as that looks like a postwar Belgian helmet which has the Belgian flag in almost identical position... but dependant on IWM provenance then it must be a unit flash, interestingly.
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I agree. The haphazard grenades screams re-enactor - as does the earth ware run jar etc etc.
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Bonne chance les gars......
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If I was to see the latter photo I'd say at first glance it was a re-enactor shot, as that looks like a postwar Belgian helmet which has the Belgian flag in almost identical position... but dependant on IWM provenance then it must be a unit flash, interestingly.
Its not from the IWM, I googled and found it.

It is not re-anacted. Although it is probably posed. I suppose it might be re-enactors copying a wartime photo?

I first saw this photo in one of those "pictorial history of the war" books when I was a kid.

I was interested because I had family members in the Royal West Kents. When I showed the photo to my father he told me about the Fire of London, which probably gave the name "Pudding Lane".
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There is also a Pudding Lane in Maidstone, Kent where the Depot of the Queen's Own Royal West Kents was located.

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By April 1940 1st Battalion, The Royal West Kent Regiment serving with 4th Division were wearing the dark blue inverted triangle shown in the picture, one of several simple cloth badges adopted by the units of the BEF.

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There is also a Pudding Lane in Maidstone, Kent where the Depot of the Queen's Own Royal West Kents was located.

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Thanks, I didn't know that.
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I agree. The haphazard grenades screams re-enactor - as does the earth ware run jar etc etc.
And the fact the photographer is standing directly in front of a loaded and made ready rifle.... :/
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The Various Bns of the Regiment worn painted flashes on their helmets, this with the dark blue triangle on the upper sleeve is that of the 1st Bn , i have a 4th Bn helmet with a light and dark blue diamond the 1st helmets were painted dark blue light blue dark blue about the same size as a the Belgian flag.
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If you look carefully both helmets in image number one have markings on the side of the helmet. And the inverted triangle is on both sleeves.

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