National Army Museum, Chelsea - cap badges - Page 3 - British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum

Peter Brydon · #31 04-05-17, 05:46 PM

Sadly I think that in most areas of life today ,even those organisations whose prime objective is NOT to make a profit, are run using the latest business models ( and not doubt their management teams employ the latest management speak ) so any opportunity to recoup some income, no matter what that might involve ( selling the family silver ? ) will be seized with both hands.

P.B.

fougasse1940 · #32 04-05-17, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by btns

The NAM: careless destructors of british history

John 11:35

Thomas.

Frank Kelley · #33 04-05-17, 07:27 PM

Hello Mike,
Yes, I think there are quite a number of people with similar views now, a great shame, never mind, visits are not compulsory.
Regards Frank

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I to like you frank spent many interesting and enjoyable hours in both museums but alas now both have gone Down hill they are ok for people to look round on a rainy day but for collectors and people genuinely interested in military matters not very good in my opinion

btns · #34 04-05-17, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by grenadierguardsman

I don't know what your on about, i was referring to the reply from the National Army Museum.
Andy

My apologies. I assumed you were referring to my posting.

grenadierguardsman · #35 05-05-17, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by btns

My apologies. I assumed you were referring to my posting.

No problem.
Andy

grenadierguardsman · #36 23-10-17, 03:36 PM

Been back to the National Army Museum today, they are showing two badges as being to the Grenadier Guards. Both are wrong, they are even showing the wrong Motto. As I have already mentioned, I told them in January about these mistakes. It seems as though they definitely couldn’t give a toss.
Andy

Toby Purcell · #37 23-10-17, 07:27 PM

Sorry to hear that Andy, but sadly not at all surprised.

Staffsyeoman · #38 23-10-17, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by grenadierguardsman

Been back to the National Army Museum today, they are showing two badges as being to the Grenadier Guards. Both are wrong, they are even showing the wrong Motto. As I have already mentioned, I told them in January about these mistakes. It seems as though they definitely couldn’t give a toss.
Andy

There is a reason for that. They don't.

kingsley · #39 24-10-17, 02:54 AM

Unbelievable, but true. The AWM used to have a director who was obsessed with models rather than artifacts. Of course, limited space and limited funds but conservation should be RULE NUMBER 1.
Not sure exactly when, but:
1. Their original complete German trophy railway gun was too big and a coat of paint was too hard: the solution was to scrap it and just keep the barrel you see today.
2. No room for orginal WW1 aircraft, a model would do. Solution, burn them!!!
3. Their incredible collection of Pickelhauben which I used to admire in the 1960s were put in storage for a display change. There they got wet and were reduced to soggy pulp.
Maybe the IWM is not so bad after all.

fairlie63 · #40 24-10-17, 08:35 AM

Regarding the railway gun, the mounting was moved to the Proof and Experimental Establishment at Port Wakefield, South Australia, during the Second World War for proof of relined 8-inch naval guns. Barrel was left in Canberra, railway bogies got left at Wodonga.

When the mounting was no longer needed the AWM decided it was too costly to return to Canberra so it was scrapped in situ!

We'd probably cry if we knew the true story of what had been sold, stolen, or scrapped at the AWM.

grenadierguardsman · #41 25-10-17, 05:53 PM

According to the National Army Museum this is a cap badge to the Grenadier Guards, donated by Major Parkyn in about 1970. It is for me to prove that it is not ?!

grenadierguardsman · #42 25-10-17, 07:19 PM

According to the National Army Museum this is a cap badge to the Grenadier Guards, donated by Major Parkyn in about 1970 ?! I have to prove that it is not !
Andy

leigh kitchen · #43 25-10-17, 07:37 PM

Tell 'em to check some basic badge books?
Ask them what documentation Parkyn supplied identifying the badges as GG?
Sounds like it's a case of "it's a grenade with nothing on the ball so it's got to be Grenadier Guards"..

David Tremain · #44 25-10-17, 11:26 PM

It looks more like one I have which was actually an artillery regiment, c.1890s:

Fifeshire Artillery Volunteers, forage cap (pre-1902), general pattern, WM, as for Grenadier Guards (KK838)

David

leigh kitchen · #45 25-10-17, 11:33 PM

Yep, & of course RMA for the second, as shown in basic badge refs. K&K & Gaylor.