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OSD cap badges
Does anyone have an exact date when OSD cap badges came into use, I thought 1902 was the accepted date when these first were worn.
Your thoughts welcome Rob |
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That's what I thought too Rob. Are you asking because of what appears to be QVC OSD Suffolks currently appearing on the evil empire?
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Their mentioned in 1904 Dress Regs.
Andy
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QVC OSD Suffolks
David, we obviously look at the same website, the seller has some very scarce highly priced Suffolk items for sale, but a QVC OSD badge seems a little strange, Andy's comment of 1904 puts this item in doubt.
Rob |
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Officers Service Dress was introduced by Army Order 40 of 17th January 1902. Badges for Service Dress were described as; ‘On the forage cap.- In brown bronze the present pattern field cap badge, or where that badge is now worn in embroidery, the present pattern puggaree badge.'
Rgds, Thomas |
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The dealer from whom this was originally purchased from gave the following reference: Ref K&K Vol1
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Good evening Rob.
Being somewhat curious, I think I have found the badge you mention. I believe it to be an other ranks that has been coloured by some spurious method to give the impression it is a bronzed OSD. Look closely, you will see it has a 3 braze holes on the scroll at the rear; and as you know, they were used on 2 and multi part badges. That lends itself to the question; why would an OSD bronze, (normally made in one piece I thought, although I maybe wrong as I often am ), need a braze hole? Have a look at his previous offering, an OR's QVC.........................note it has braze holes in the same place and also the lugs are in the same place on both offerings. Regards Brian |
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I originally purchased this badge from a well established dealer for £85.00. He is a dealer who is well known to this site. I am currently disposing of my entire collection. If this is a 'dud' I will email the dealer for a full refund and immediately remove it from ebay. (The badge still appears on his site) Regards John |
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It is likely to be an ORs cap badge that may have been buried and discoloured. I would not buy my myself. The construction is not correct for an officers badge.
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Can we see it?
There appear to be 2 links available, ebay and a dealers site. regards
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Simon Butterworth Manchester Regiment Collector Rank, Prize & Trade Badges British & Commonwealth Artillery Badges |
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I don't deny the conclusions regarding the above badge - but strange things do occur !
I have a 1902 Patt KLR "OSD" - which is very clearly a brown painted BM OR die struck badge, slider removed and two blades attached. As it is impossible to be taken in by this I wondered if it was an emergency commission - in the field ? - badge ?????? |
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John.
After my initial observation; I typed another post, however, I failed to press the send button, the thrust of which was, that I suggested that it had the appearance of a ground dug item. A view now supported by Alan. I wasn't in any way suggesting that you were responsible for the discolouration, (it was apparent that you were selling off a good collection), but at some time in the past. I would suggest you have a word with the dealer and ask for a refund. Regards Brian |
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and I repeat???????????
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Can you put up a couple of link's to the badges in question
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Having now seen the 'OSD' badge on ebay it is clear to me that it is a disco,loured other ranks BM badge and not an officers QVC OSD badge.
regards
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Simon Butterworth Manchester Regiment Collector Rank, Prize & Trade Badges British & Commonwealth Artillery Badges |
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