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Fusiliers (?) Button Identification - Help Needed
Can you please help to identify this button?
It looks like a fusiliers button, but I have no informations about it. Thank you. Regards, Balazs |
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It's not a British Army button and with the Cannons is an artillery button I suspect.
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Hello Balazs
Alan is quite right, not British Army and it is artillery, not fusiliers. It is a very common pattern used by many countries. If there is a backmark this may give a clue as to the country of use, although many makers made buttons for use by the armies of other countries. Roger |
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Alan, Roger,
Thank you for your fast reply. It is interesting, the tunic looks like a 'guards pattern' tunic. I haven't received it yet, but I am going to check the reverse of the buttons after the tunic arrives. Balazs |
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The e-bay seller gave a full description.
Do you doubt his statement that it is pre 1900 Swiss Artillery? |
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It is not that auction. In this case the description was about a British Army tunic and I have found that according to the description the back of the buttons marked as 'Firmin & Sons Ld - St Martins Lane', and the tunic has a stamp inside 'Inspected RMC 3 - 11 - 1911'.
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/253409876...m=253409876017 All I can comment on are the buttons. These are indeed correct for Swiss Artillery and as Roger has remarked 'many other countries'. |
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the one in the ebay auction has moth holes and a large cut on the lower right side and a totally different collar. regards
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Simon Butterworth Manchester Regiment Collector Rank, Prize & Trade Badges British & Commonwealth Artillery Badges |
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The Tunic looks to have the Guards pattern lace. The collar and epaulettes look to be different, the metal grenades are wrong though. Andy
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Leave to carry on Sir please. |
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Gents,
Thank you for your comments. This is my tunic: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Guards-Re...p2047675.l2557 I am a bit confused about the tunic what it is. British made buttons (Firmin), British stamp on it and Guards pattern lace, but it could be not British? |
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I am thinking about the stamp on the inside. What RMC could be? Is it Royal Military College (Sandhurst or RMC Canada) or something else?
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Obviously, the fact that Firmin made the buttons (in Britain) does not mean that they were intended for use by British Army. Firmin made buttons for any country/army who placed an order.
There is always the possibility that the buttons have been replaced at some point. Your uniform may have been around for some time without buttons and those currently on it were placed there when used as a film/theatre prop for example. I think it is safe to say that IF the uniform itself is British (and I am in no position to comment) then the buttons are not correct for a British tunic. Roger |
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Roger, thank you for your comment. So, the button doesn't help us to find the solution.
What do you think the abbreviation RMC stands for? |
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I've found some interesting photos about Guards bandsman uniforms. All of them are from early 20th century.
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I have commented on this garment before on the Victorian Wars Forum at least a year ago. It is a Foot Guards (Grenadiers) ‘musicians’ (the distinction of Guards over other Army ‘bandsmen’ at the time), tunic from before WW1, when all members of the band had gold chest lace, rather than just the drum major as today. At that time collar badges and buttons were removed before old ‘(conditioned’) tunics were sold off. The current collar badge and buttons have been retrofitted and the latter are not British but from a Continental European state.
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