New Zealand Pipers in WW1

[Tinto]

Hello All,
The latest "NZ Listener" magazine has a picture of the New Zealand Army Pipe Band.
What badges would they have worn?
Cheers, Tinto

[Drummajor]

Don't really know the answer, but maybe this one?

Phil.

[Tinto]

Hi Phil,
Thanks for your suggestion. There is a certain resemblance in shape to those worn in the picture.
Interestingly, I have the badge you have shown, solid, with 2 long screw posts, presumably a belt badge.
Cheers, Tinto

[atillathenunns]

Hi Tinto,
I too would be interested in knowing what badges are being worn, however, I doubt they are wearing Caledonian Pipe Band badges.

Interestingly during the 1911 to 1920 period there were several New Zealand military pipe bands including one aboard HMS New Zealand.

The NZEF Main Body Pipe band photo below was taken in September 1914. The instruments and equipment for the band was presented by the three Scottish societies of Dunedin—the Caledonian Society, Gaelic Society, Burns Club. The uniforms they are wearing are standard NZ Territorial uniforms.



I also have photos of the NZEF Pipe Band taken in 1917 and 1918, again they are wearing standard territorial uniforms but with lemon squeezer hats.
Your two photos appear to have been taken in 1919, and show proper full Scottish uniforms including tunics and glengarry are being worm.

[Tinto]

Hi Brent,
Interesting picture you have posted, thanks for sharing. What regiment were these men in?
It seems that the bandsmen in the 1919 pictures in the first post are wearing the collar badges of the 14th (South Otago) Regiment.
Regards, John

[atillathenunns]

John, difficult to tell what the badges are, but the photo is from an Otago newspaper, so I am leaning that some of the badges are 10th Otago.

The following picture is from Puks thread. It shows the Auckland Regiment Pipe Band-
http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...t=35971&page=2

[aboode]

Originally Posted by atillathenunns

Hi Tinto,
I too would be interested in knowing what badges are being worn, however, I doubt they are wearing Caledonian Pipe Band badges.

Interestingly during the 1911 to 1920 period there were several New Zealand military pipe bands including one aboard HMS New Zealand.

The NZEF Main Body Pipe band photo below was taken in September 1914. The instruments and equipment for the band was presented by the three Scottish societies of Dunedin—the Caledonian Society, Gaelic Society, Burns Club. The uniforms they are wearing are standard NZ Territorial uniforms.



I also have photos of the NZEF Pipe Band taken in 1917 and 1918, again they are wearing standard territorial uniforms but with lemon squeezer hats.
Your two photos appear to have been taken in 1919, and show proper full Scottish uniforms including tunics and glengarry are being worm.

Do you have more information about the Pipe Band of HMS New Zealand? When did that exist? I would also be interested in the name of the Pipe Major(s).
Aad

[atillathenunns]

Originally Posted by aboode

Do you have more information about the Pipe Band of HMS New Zealand? When did that exist? I would also be interested in the name of the Pipe Major(s).
Aad

HMS New Zealand had two bands on board, one brass band and one pipe band.
As far as I am aware, the brass band was formed in 1913, and I'm guessing the pipe band was formed during the war, but was most definitely in existence after the war.
Regardless, it seems H.M.S. New Zealand was the fourth ship of the Royal Navy to establish a pipe band on board.

The Bandmaster on H.M.S. New Zealand was Arthur Pragnell (Royal Marines), but Stoker Petty Officer Alexander McNeice may have been in charge of the Pipe band.

Both ships bands led the procession to the Christchurch Cathedral where the ships battle flag was laid up in 1919.
The ensign pole of H.M.S. New Zealand was struck by a German shell during the battle of Jutland on 31st May 1916.