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Army Veterinary button question.....
Hello,
am trying to find information about Edward VII era RAVC dress tunic buttons. The early non-stabrite buttons; are they one inch across? I have found a decent number that are one inch or smaller but some other uniforms of this era seem to have 25mm or equivalent size. Thanks in advance for any information. |
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Welcome to the Forum! The Edward VII Army Veterinary Department/Service buttons come in three basic sizes - large and small (both for the tunic) and cap size. The buttons can vary a bit in size but the large ones are about 25mm, which is more or less the same as an inch. Not sure if that answers your question or not David |
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Yes, sorry for the confusing post, I'll explain a bit better (made a typo with the size) I do have some original 25mm/1'' original buttons RAVC, from about the turn of the century. I was wondering if this is the correct size for the front of the tunic and the eight buttons that are on the back? From what you're saying the 25mm/1'' are correct for the jacket itself. I wasnt sure as I had researched other Military jackets online from the same era and they seemed to have slightly larger buttons again (difficult to tell from photographs online and in books!) Also, if I might pick your brains; I have a pair of these 'collar dogs' (I think they are called) badges for either side of the high collar. Do you know if these were attached with some kind of pin? Or were they sewn directly onto the collar? Thank you once again for any help you can offer. Last edited by RobGordon35; 30-01-17 at 05:54 AM. |
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Looks like OSD ollar badge with blades
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Hi GTB, its actually this one;
Has two little circular eyelets on the back. Was wondering how this is fastened to the collar? Thanks Last edited by RobGordon35; 30-01-17 at 08:21 AM. |
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Also known as cotter pin.
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Hi Rob
I'm still confused! Is your query about an OSD jacket (Officers Service Dress - the khaki uniform)? Your description above sounded more like a pre 1914 full dress tunic. Whichever it is, large and small buttons were worn on both, depending where on the uniform they were used. The first badge you have shown if it has blades on the back, which it appears to have - is a OSD cap badge. The second badge is a collar badge (secured by a brass pin as mentioned above) but it also appears to be an OSD badge. These AVC badges were worn by officers c. 1906-1918/1919 but neither was worn with the full dress uniform. As regards buttons, the 1906-1918/1919 period buttons come with both EVIIR & GVR cyphers. Confusingly, they have the title "Army Veterinary Service", rather than the correct Army Veterinary Corps. David PS.... I forgot that you mentioned Edward VII specifically. At the risk of making things even more complicated, I should mention that all the above applies to the period of his reign from 1906. Prior to that the buttons has the title "Army Veterinary Department" and the badges had a "AVD" monogram. Last edited by davidwyke; 30-01-17 at 08:29 PM. Reason: additional info |
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You make two holes in the collar of the jacket where you want to fasten the badge and where both loops are on the back of the badge, stick the loops through the holes, and slide a split pin through the eyelets of the loops on the reverse of the collar.
Rgds, Thomas. |
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To explain; I'm having a replica jacket made (two different ones in fact) and I was researching the buttons because although I've seen a number of reproductions jackets (a friend works in theatre) and one or two genuine original period jackets, the reproductions often lack the correct period buttons and use a generic brass button instead. Which means they dont have quite the correct appearance. The RAVC or RAVS jacket is one that was briefly worn by a famous rock star during the 1960's The other jacket is the Artillery Officers jacket, which I believe is early Victorian (?) Yes it is very confusing, -I noticed that the RAVS buttons are more convex in their manufacture than some of the others. Seems to depend on the maker but also probably the era. Thank you once again for any suggestions in advance. |
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Rgds, Thomas. |
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Hello Rob
Going purely by the buttons (which do look original to the item) the tunic must date from after 1873 which is when this pattern of Royal Artillery button was introduced. Regards Roger |
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thank you, yes I have managed to find some for sale.
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Thank you for that, I have found theses buttons to have many different finishes to them, -was this dependent on era or commission do you know?
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1800s, button, edward vii, veterinary corps |
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