11th Bn Borders comments please.

[RMR]

These arrived this morning never having seen one in hand before all comments are welcome,size silver 41mm by 43 brass 41 by 43.Thanks Roger

[wright241]

Originally Posted by RMR

These arrived this morning never having seen one in hand before all comments are welcome,size silver 41mm by 43 brass 41 by 43.Thanks Roger

Roger, You need to be able to interpret those silver marks accurately as I have seen sets of marks that appear to be silver (name, Queens head etc, year date etc) but on closer inspection were completely indecipherable - to the extent that its illegal - which is why I think that fakers are using the words "Silver" - which may not be.
Personally, I don't like the attached maker tablet. Doesn't look very well done at all. Could just be off my rocker of course, which is allowed when you are "getting on".... maybe they are ok.

Rgds, David

[RMR]

Hi David, the silver badge has S.G.and London hallmark for 1914/15 and are stamped not cast having dealt in jewellery for over 40 years I can read a hall mark and have seen most of the attempts at faking them.Thanks for your thoughts.Roger

[wright241]

Originally Posted by RMR

Hi David, the silver badge has S.G.and London hallmark for 1914/15 and are stamped not cast having dealt in jewellery for over 40 years I can read a hall mark and have seen most of the attempts at faking them.Thanks for your thoughts.Roger

Roger,
Well at least the silver one seems to be a goodie then. Looks like you have lucked-in on that one. Well done.

Even a "normal" one is quite a difficult one to get as its been faked to death.

Rgds, David

[RMR]

Thanks David,there are collectors on here with lots of experience with these particular badges I'm hoping they will also comment.Roger

[Neil Pearce]

Hi RMR

The hallmark looks good to me, but the GM badge looks the wrong colour. Maybe it's the flash?

Mine are attached for reference - sorry about the blurred rear on the silver one, but note the lack of E-W lugs.

Cheers, Neil

[RMR]

Hi Neil,I had to tinker with the colour a bit as it was half in shadow but it's actually gilding metal the lugs are identical to yours and the plaque looks the same examining mine thru a glass it has the same raised dot to the right of the top of the L in eleventh and the same mark after the V at the bottom .Were the silver ones only made with a lug and strap?Roger

[Neil Pearce]

Hi Roger

The short answer is I don't know for sure! I did read once that there were only N-S lugs, but I recall that was an "expert" who also maintained there was never a bronze version badge issued. I can say with certainty this is incorrect.
Sorry I can't be definitive!
Cheers, Neil

[Neil Pearce]

Roger

Here is the eBay guide. Found it, and I believe it has been discussed on the forum previously:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/gds/BORDER-REG...1638783/g.html

Here is a picture of an OSD badge for example.

http://freewebs.com/granatloch/spike44a.html

Cheers

[RMR]

Neil if that guide is correct then the silver badge is a wrong one perhaps this thread will receive more replies.Roger

[oc14]

Well for what it's worth (and i'm no expert with regard to either of these badges), I think that they both look like cracking examples which I would be more than happy to include in my collection. In other words, I think you have done very well with both of them.

PL

[RMR]

Thanks PL that is a heartening comment,does anyone know if the silver ones were originally gilded? as this one was.Roger

[2747andy]

Originally Posted by Neil Pearce

Roger

Here is the eBay guide. Found it, and I believe it has been discussed on the forum previously:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/gds/BORDER-REG...1638783/g.html

Here is a picture of an OSD badge for example.

http://freewebs.com/granatloch/spike44a.html

Cheers

A rather comprehensive guide, although I'm not sure of the reference to an all Gm 1916 badge?

Andy

[LONGSHANKS]

Hi all. I'm surprised this one didn't get discussed in the run up to it's sale.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ww1-BORDER...vip=true&rt=nc

I see that the plate isn't in the usual spot of the one's I've seen on here in the past that are stated as original.

Simon.

[LONGSHANKS]

I thought the team would be all over this one. I take it then this tablet location is good. Anyone think the price was cheap or the tablet location kept the price down as it isn't like some other's I've seen on here.

Simon.