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Old 19-06-09, 09:26 AM
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Default 18th "Public Works Pioneer Bn" Middlesex Regt
Can anyone help with this one? The first photograph shows two 18th Middlesex badges, the left clearly a copy (pictures 2 & 3) as it has a whitemetal base scroll and looks artifcially aged. The right (pictures 4,5 & 6) however has a GM base scroll, the braze to the slider is a nice colour, there are two sweat holes behind the "Middx" Scroll but it looks rather "New". I've seen copies where a base scroll has been added to a regular pattern badge, but I think the correct construction should be a solid GM back with an applied WM "Middx" Scroll with the GM "Public Works" Scroll attached to the rear. Otherwise scroll on scroll would be too flimsy! I've shown a regular pattern badge to help illustrate my point (Second post)! Is the badge geniune or a very good copy? Does anyone have an Original 18th Bn that they can post for me to see?

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Old 19-06-09, 09:28 AM
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Rear of Regular Pattern Middx Regt.
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Old 19-06-09, 10:06 AM
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I think you'll find this whole thread very useful.

http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/fo...ic=115159&st=0
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Old 19-06-09, 10:47 AM
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I think you'll find this whole thread very useful.

http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/fo...ic=115159&st=0
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thanks for the link, however I cannot access most of it?

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Old 19-06-09, 10:59 AM
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thanks for the link, however I cannot access most of it?

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Strange. It's OK when I follow it through even using the one in your reply, nine pages in all.

I've seen a very heated discussion on here somewhere, maybe one of the mods might be able to access a link please?
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Old 19-06-09, 11:03 AM
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Are you a member of the site? (I'm not, so blocked when attempting to open photos)!!

Is it Good News or Bad, for me?

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Are you a member of the site? (I'm not, so blocked when attempting to open photos)!!

Is it Good News or Bad, for me?

Andy
I think bad I'm afraid. It's all to do with the feathers and scroll ends which are very distinctive compared to a regulars.

If you go to the Buywise site they have one for sale (£325!!) and it's identical to the ones posted on the GWF (which I recommend everyone to join).
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Default Public works pioneer battalion
Andy

This one is an original badge

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This one is an original badge

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Certainly is going by the front. Any chance of a photo of the back?
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Thanks MILLY17090,
likewise could you please post an image of the back!

All the best - Andy
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Another Fake?
Not too bad from the front, but from the back "Copy"!
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Here we go again what do we think of my latest purchase ?
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Looks good to me going on the scroll ends, crimp line and general condition. Trusted dealer or did you get lucky? Cheers, Paul.
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Looks good to me going on the scroll ends, crimp line and general condition. Trusted dealer or did you get lucky? Cheers, Paul.
I agree. Nice badge.
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Old 30-07-09, 05:42 AM
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Yes i got it from a dealer and paid the price to boot, but at least its a good one
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