British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum

Recent Books by Forum Members

   

Go Back   British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum > British Military Insignia > Airborne, Elite and Special Forces Insignia

 Other Pages: Galleries, Links etc.
Glossary  Books by Forum Members     Canadian Pre 1914    CEF    CEF Badge Inscriptions   Canadian post 1920     Canadian post 1953     British Cavalry Badges     Makers' Marks    Pipers' Badges  Canadian Cloth Titles  Books  SEARCH
 
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 25-09-12, 11:17 PM
SAS1 SAS1 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,383
Default One for the 'experts'...

Denison, Royal Navy cap badge (possibly on a green beret?) surmounted with a Phantom 'P'. Discuss...
Attached Images
File Type: jpg phantom.jpg (23.4 KB, 178 views)
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 26-09-12, 09:18 AM
johanwiegman's Avatar
johanwiegman johanwiegman is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: IJsselstein, The Netherlands
Posts: 762
Default Royal Navy Chaplain?

hi,

To me it looks like a Royal Navy Chaplain, with the cross in the middle.

I cannot explain the P, but Phantom sounds highly unlikely!

Cheers,

Johan
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 26-09-12, 09:44 AM
Mike Jackson's Avatar
Mike Jackson Mike Jackson is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 6,329
Default

Possibly the crown has been cropped from an RN Officer's badge and replaced with a P (Poland?) - same logic that had French paratroopers cropping the crown from the Para Regt beret badge?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 26-09-12, 01:07 PM
David Tremain's Avatar
David Tremain David Tremain is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Ottawa, Canada
Posts: 1,904
Default

Maybe the 'P' simply stands for Padre?

David
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 26-09-12, 02:16 PM
Nozzer Nozzer is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 2,635
Default

Hello

Royal Navy Chaplains cap badge laurels are black with gold veins. This looks like a normal cap badge (gold bullion with silver anchor) with a "P" instead of a crown. As to what it is I can't help I am afraid.

Andy
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 26-09-12, 03:57 PM
Mike Jackson's Avatar
Mike Jackson Mike Jackson is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 6,329
Default

Principal RC Chaplain to the RN - Fr Andy McFadden:
RN Chaplain.01.jpg
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 26-09-12, 04:00 PM
Mike Jackson's Avatar
Mike Jackson Mike Jackson is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 6,329
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SAS1 View Post
Denison, Royal Navy cap badge (possibly on a green beret?) surmounted with a Phantom 'P'. Discuss...
Does the full photograph give any context which would aid identification?
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 26-09-12, 06:52 PM
Luc's Avatar
Luc Luc is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Delft, Netherlands
Posts: 3,031
Default

A war correspondent serving with the British airborne during Market Garden, his name escapes me (Maxted?). He wore a funky cap badge made from a Navy cap badge, it seems he wears a P for press taken from a Phantom patch above it.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 26-09-12, 06:52 PM
DJT's Avatar
DJT DJT is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Europe
Posts: 306
Default

Interesting photo but I'm not convinced it is a 'Phantom' formation sign.
__________________
Regards,

Des
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 26-09-12, 07:13 PM
johanwiegman's Avatar
johanwiegman johanwiegman is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: IJsselstein, The Netherlands
Posts: 762
Default Stanley Maxted

Quote:
Originally Posted by Luc View Post
A war correspondent serving with the British airborne during Market Garden, his name escapes me (Maxted?). He wore a funky cap badge made from a Navy cap badge, it seems he wears a P for press taken from a Phantom patch above it.
I found a picture of Stanley Maxted. See attached.

British war correspondents at operation Market Garden. Right to left: Fosgt. Williams, censor, Mr. Stanley Maxted, B.B.C. war correspondent major Roij Oliver, war office Public Relations Office.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Afbeelding.jpg (69.1 KB, 98 views)
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 26-09-12, 07:45 PM
Luc's Avatar
Luc Luc is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Delft, Netherlands
Posts: 3,031
Default

Defenately Sergeant Stanley Maxted. Here's a picture of him during the filming of "theirs is the glory", he wears a different but clearly similar badge.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg scan00018vo.jpg (55.1 KB, 95 views)
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 26-09-12, 08:33 PM
Mike Jackson's Avatar
Mike Jackson Mike Jackson is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 6,329
Default

Prompted by the above - can anyone identify the formation sign worn by (according to the caption) a "non-BBC correspendent". Photograph taken in NW Europe, probably 1945. It looks to me like a square bearing an ornate cross with a saltire or crossed swords superimposed. The cross is somewhat remniscent of the style of cross on some Polish metal insignia of the period.

20120926_Unident Correspondent.01.jpg 20120926_Unident Correspondent.jpg
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 26-09-12, 09:58 PM
fougasse1940's Avatar
fougasse1940 fougasse1940 is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,208
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SAS1 View Post
Denison, Royal Navy cap badge (possibly on a green beret?) surmounted with a Phantom 'P'. Discuss...
The photo is actually of Stanley Maxted, who was a correspondent attached to a naval vessel during D-Day, the badge is considered to be made up of a standard navy badge with a Phantom shoulder badge imposed to imply "P" for press as all stated here.
This image is from a 17-9-44 pre-Arnhem embarkation movie still. I therefore take it the beret is maroon. The badge(s) are a personal leftover from D-Day?
I always wondered if there were specific naval press badges like this? Never seen one elsewhere.

Rgds,

Thomas.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 26-09-12, 10:26 PM
fougasse1940's Avatar
fougasse1940 fougasse1940 is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,208
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by johanwiegman View Post
I found a picture of Stanley Maxted. See attached.

British war correspondents at operation Market Garden. Right to left: Fosgt. Williams, censor, Mr. Stanley Maxted, B.B.C. war correspondent major Roij Oliver, war office Public Relations Office.
To be exact: left to right: Sgt. Mike Lewis; AFPU, Major Howard Coxon; RAF Air Liason Group (Light Warning Unit), Major Roy Oliver; Army Public Relations Officer, Stanley Maxted; BBC correspondent and Flight Lieutenant Albert Arthur "billy" Williams; Censor, Public Relations Section.
Oliver is wearing a RTR cap badge as per his commission, but on a maroon or black beret?

Rgds,

Thomas.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 27-09-12, 09:01 AM
SAS1 SAS1 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,383
Default

Fougasse, I'm afraid youre wrong, Luc gets the lollipop today. It is indeed Stan Maxted in a still from the 1946 film 'Theirs is the Glory', although made using veterans of the Arnhem battle, presumably in the same uniforms they had worn the year before (It was made in 1945). Interesting combination though...
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

mhs link

All times are GMT. The time now is 08:57 PM.


Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.