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Now I'm sure you're very keen to emphasise that your opinion is more informed than mine and indeed that may be the case however I think I have very strong evidence to the contrary but I trust we won't be starting another 40 years of troubles over a difference of opinion? As for Arlene Foster: yes she comes across as able and she survived the ethnic cleansing of Fermanagh which does give her the right to say many things in my view however: she is DUP and as long as that party exists there will never be true peace in Northern Ireland. The same goes for Sinn Fein. There now: you have another opinion of mine.
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No one answered your question. It means "Thank you, chairman"
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Connaught,
I would agree with you that the Gaeltacht is a real and living community, and not done for financial gain, grants or other. I have worked all over Connemara and loved the area and it's people. As regards Gregory Cambell's remarks being an insult, I would disagree with you on that one. Gregory was merely reacting to the constant oppression of anything British in the six counties by Sinn Fein. Sinn Fein use your national language and flag as a weapons to use on Unionists, and if the Unionists react Sinn Fein has the world press covering that Unionist reaction. They are clever folk and if they ever get a majority in the Irish government they will make Hitlers party look moderate. I would much rather see a politician using humor rather than violence against his foes. And like Hussar 100, I do not vote for DUP, or Sinn Fein. Eddie |
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Ah, finally, something we can agree on.
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As for the Irish language. I've got no objection to anyone learning it and speaking it. All I've done is point out that I've never seen it work in practice despite vast experience of working in the south.
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Watch out you - I'll set the Redcoats on you. I'll have you know that Billy Butlin was a personal friend.
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I Googled a couple of facts on Gaelic just now and to be honest I was surprised what I found.
Firstly, and very surprisingly, Gaelic is not the second language of Ireland (although it is officially). More people in fact speak Polish than Irish. Read here. Sadly, and despite the Dail making it almost mandatory to speak Irish for many public positions and after 90 years of teaching it in schools, the Irish language is now in decline. (lost the link). The definition of Gaeltachtai is being stretched to some extent to try and show Irish in wider usage than it is. All it requires for an area to qualify as Gaeltacht is: where Irish is still spoken daily to some extent as a traditional native language. I'm going to be honest and say that Irish is doomed the same way as religion is in the entire island because you can't force people to learn and believe in something they have no interest in. As nice as it is to have Irish Gaelic (as opposed to the laughable "Lallans") in 50 years time it'll probably only be spoken by hairy people in universities. I think we'll have forgotten all about Lallans by then though.
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SF may have tried to politicise the language in the North, but that is not the case in the south, it belongs to everyone who wants to speak it. Irish belongs to everyone on the island, indeed,in the past many scholars were from a Protestant/Unionist backround,some are now starting to learn it again http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...-29901196.html As for Gregory, he acted like an amadan, if he mocked another language in the same manner ,he would be quite rightly admonished, I accept he was trying to belittle SF but his blunderbuss approach has offended non SF people as well, but then,he was never known for his tact. |
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Last Census figures here http://www.thejournal.ie/census-2011...00442-Mar2012/ As for Lallans, is that akin to Ulster scots? |
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Connaught,
Gregory is the product of the Ian Paisley era DUP, and you expect him to display tact??? I love Connemara, including the Gaeltacht, and miss working there. I even worked in the Irish Language TV station (TG4). Two weeks after I left the transmitting mast was struck by lightening, I think it was on old years night. I was 200 miles away at the time, so it was nothing to do with my political views. Eddie |
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Lallans is the name they give to the language spoken by lowland Scots and Ulster Scots. I don't believe it's a language at all but merely a dialect of English and Auld Scots or Doric. Again, it has been politicised by certain groups for their own purposes. If it wasn't for that I'd perhaps give it more credibility. Perhaps that says more about me than I want it to but I'm so fed up with the politicising of everything in the North. I travelled all over the island for years after I left the army and in the main I found that people just get on with their lives, north and south.
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The position of Irish at no.3 is imo temporary , while fewer people may speak it,I find there is a more committed cohort learning the language and it will in the long term make the language stronger. Polish will not maintain its position,It is just a reflection of the current level of polish immigration,very few of the kids in our school of polish parentage actually maintain the ability to speak polish after a few years in the education system.Funny thing, top scholar in Irish was a girl whose parents are from Mali.The world is changing. |
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I see you acknowledge though that the children of parents of a given language won't necessarily learn it. There are lessons for us all old chap. Some are good and some we'd rather not have. Let's try and make them all more pleasurable by at least encouraging people to be nice to each other.
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