Who, What, Where, When? #5

[Jelly Terror]

Hail Forum,

Who do we have here... RAF? RNAS? Recruiting Sergeants? Medal ribbons for ID also, please. Help appreciated.

With thanks,

JT

[manchesters]

JT,

I would say the ribbons are for a WW1 Pair and they are early RAF.

regarsd

[leigh kitchen]

Wearing favours, as you say, recruiters.

[David Tremain]

I can't see any pictures. This seems to be happening to me a lot lately.

David

[Jelly Terror]

Originally Posted by David Tremain

I can't see any pictures. This seems to be happening to me a lot lately.

David

Try this, David:

http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...p?albumid=3412

Thanks for your input, gents.

[Postwarden]

An interesting photo.

Air Ministry Order 783 dated 16th July 1919 states that 'All fabric cap badges (eagle and ring surmounted by crown) are now obsolescent' which may help provide a date for the photo.

Jon

[David Tremain]

I'd say the first ones are early RAF. Hobart's book says the colour was mostly red (albatross etc).
David

[Frank Kelley]

In those uniforms, I would think certainly before 1925.

Originally Posted by Jelly Terror

Hail Forum,

Who do we have here... RAF? RNAS? Recruiting Sergeants? Medal ribbons for ID also, please. Help appreciated.

With thanks,

JT

[Frank Kelley]

"albatross"

Originally Posted by David Tremain

I'd say the first ones are early RAF. Hobart's book says the colour was mostly red (albatross etc).
David

[grumpy]

The lists of recipients of the war campaign medals were drawn up rather slowly after the war, and [unless the sergeants jumped the gun re. ribbons] I think any date before very late 1919 is unlikely.

[dragon166]

They are RAF and the badge is gold wire with a metal eagle as they are SNCOs (Like Naval Petty Officer) They are also wearing an early form of the RAF Eagle shoulder flash.

[Jelly Terror]

Excellent stuff, gents. Thanks very much for your posts.

JT

[Frank Kelley]

The date would certainly have to be from mid 1919, as the sergeant on the right appears to wear the RAF brass cap badge, unlike his colleague on the left

Originally Posted by grumpy

The lists of recipients of the war campaign medals were drawn up rather slowly after the war, and [unless the sergeants jumped the gun re. ribbons] I think any date before very late 1919 is unlikely.

[Toby Purcell]

Both the SNCOs are indeed on recruiting duty as you thought, jelly terror. Like the Army, coloured ribbons (usually red, white and blue) known as ‘tallys’ and worn for hundreds of years to indicate that duty are attached to their cap buttons.