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Old 29-08-17, 08:55 AM
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Does anyone know when Jennens discontinued using the Prince Of Wales feathers in their backstamp?

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Martyn
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Old 29-08-17, 09:29 AM
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Hello Martyn

I assume you are talking about the use of the Prince of Wales's feathers as used after 1860, in which case there is no really solid answer.

I have Victorian buttons by Jennens (talking about large size buttons here as Jennens didn't usually use their feathers trademark on smaller size buttons, there are exceptions though!) which are clearly post 1860 both with and without the PoW feathers mark, so it would seem that Jennens were not always consistent with their use of the PoW feathers.

In general they seemed to have stopped using the mark sometime in the 1902-1910 period although I do have one or two buttons with George V cypher which have the 'Jennens & Co London' backmark with PoW feathers. This may just have been a matter of using any existing dies or parts thereof that were available during the First World War though and perhaps too much should not be read into these exceptions.

I can't recall ever seeing a 'Jennens & Co Ltd London' backmark which used the feathers so it would seem that the use of the PoW feathers had probably ceased by 1912 at the latest.

One theory that has been put forward was that the use of the PoW feathers was in some way formally connected to the Prince of Wales, perhaps by 'Royal Appointment' and that when Edward, Prince of Wales became King Edward VII in 1902 Jennens were eventually obliged to stop using the feathers! As I said, just a theory with no evidence to back it up!

I would be interested to read any other comments.

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Old 29-08-17, 09:39 AM
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Many thanks Roger for taking the time to produce such a detailed and informative answer. I have this Monmouthshire regiment button which I would presume to be WW1 or earlier I suppose.

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Old 29-08-17, 10:13 AM
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Hello Martyn

I think your button is for the South Wales Borderers rather than the Monmouthshire Regiment but it is almost certainly pre First World War.

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Old 29-08-17, 10:48 AM
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Many thanks Roger for helping me with its correct identification and dating.

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