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Old 11-11-17, 06:45 PM
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Default Ernest Charles Vizard...somewhat interesting story.

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E.C.Vizard was born in London in 1889 and emigrated to Canada in 1909. On the outbreak of war in 1914, he enlisted in 10th Battalion, Canadian Mounted Infantry. He served with the Canadian Expeditionary Force in Egypt and France before being discharged for theft on 26 April 1915. He then travelled to Australia where he re-enlisted with the 4th Battalion, Australian Imperial Force. Vizard sailed with his new unit on board SS MAKARINI from Sydney on 19 July 1916 but was discharged again, having being diagnosed with a heart condition, on 10 December 1917 with the rank of private. Vizard died, aged 29, on 30 October 1918.

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An interesting story, I would love to know what he stole to get a discharge, at that time many serving men were hoping to get "a Blighty one" to get sent back to England, if they had known you had to steal whatever to get a discharge how much easier.

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I wonder...if he was discharged for theft, why wasn't he charged and paraded in front of the commanding officer or court-martialed instead.....then returned to a combat unit after a time in detention. The way I see it, a lot of soldiers would steal something/anything to be trown out of the army.....

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He told the doctors in UK that he was discharged for medical reasons from 1st Canadian Cavalry Brigade.

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. . . that time many serving men were hoping to get "a Blighty one" to get sent back to England, if they had known you had to steal whatever to get a discharge how much easier.
From reading between the lines of his CEF attestation form, Vizard wasn't in long enough to be bothered with. While he went through the recruiting process (e.g. the medical examination) in January 1915, his form was signed by the Commanding Officer 10th CMR on 23 March 1915. The 10th CMR was officially raised on 10 March 1915. The notation on his attestation form that he was discharged for theft is dated 26 April 1915, barely enough time to get issued kit, let alone be trained and sent overseas. Why keep a trouble maker when they were probably not having much difficulty in finding recruits at that stage of the war?

On one of the attestation forms of his Australian military records (go to page 5), he indicated that (in addition to his "service" in the CEF) he had also spent three years in the 27th US Cavalry in Manila and Honolulu; he claimed that his Canadian service was two years with the 20th C.A.S.C. and reason for leaving was "disbanded". I suppose in the days before the ability to check records internationally, a man's word was taken at face value. Perhaps it was his "military experience" that gained him an almost immediate promotion to QM Sergeant. Of course, Sgt Vizard was reverted to his permanent rank of Pte (page 9) for the crimes of AWL and conduct prejudicial to good order and discipline.
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To be fair, none of us are perfect. RIP Ernest.
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