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Old 11-06-17, 12:26 PM
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good morning,

this one little badge for identification :




size : 20,20 mm / 26,93 mm
marquing :
T
CLB
C
come from : England

thank's in avance for your help.

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Old 11-06-17, 01:20 PM
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Church Lads Brigade.

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Old 11-06-17, 05:10 PM
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Good evening

Thank you for your help.

What do the letters "TC" correspond to?

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Thank you for your help.

What do the letters "TC" correspond to?

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michel
It means 'The Cadets', so that from top to bottom it reads: The Church Lads Brigade Cadets (TCLBC). It was a military arm of the youth movement of the Anglican Church (i.e. Protestant, Church of England). They provided recruits for the WW1, 16th Battalion of the King's Royal Rifle Corps (KRRC) and suffered many casualties. They saw themselves as soldiers of Christ.
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Old 11-06-17, 06:47 PM
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I always believed that the TC was for Training Corps as a similar badge was used later for the Junior Training Corps. It was for the younger members of the CLB.
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I always believed that the TC was for Training Corps as a similar badge was used later for the Junior Training Corps. It was for the younger members of the CLB.
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Yes, I think you are correct Eddie, my mistake. Here are two excellent links that give good information for Michel:

1. http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/fo...de-clb-badges/

2. https://www.clcgb.org.uk/documents/h...lion-krrc/file
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Old 11-06-17, 09:36 PM
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good evening,

wonderfull.

I research any information about the all unit are coming in loos & hill 70
with your 2nd link I see the CLB 16th KRRK are coming to the hill 70 at loos.

it's possible to some soldiers about this unit are this Lapel badge during the first worl war in the uniform?

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Old 11-06-17, 10:19 PM
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good evening,

wonderfull.

I research any information about the all unit are coming in loos & hill 70
with your 2nd link I see the CLB 16th KRRK are coming to the hill 70 at loos.

it's possible to some soldiers about this unit are this Lapel badge during the first worl war in the uniform?

thank's a lot for all.

regards

michel
No Michel, the lapel badges were worn by veterans on civilian clothes after the war. The most likely scenario I think is that a veteran revisited the battlefield many years later and either lost the lapel badge or exchanged it with a local person as a souvenir.
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Old 12-06-17, 01:08 AM
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Toby,
This is not a veterans badge it is a CLB youth organisation's lapel badge. It would have been worn by CLB members in the lapel of civilian clothes.
It could well have been taken to France by a soldier who had been a member of the CLB, although he would not have worn it on his army uniform.
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Old 12-06-17, 06:28 AM
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good morning,

I restate that the one I present, comes from England.

In view of the various objects with a number or insignia (Cap badge of the Dublin Police or Canadian battalions) found in the field that there is no direct connection with the presence and use at the front, will not surprise me.
A friend doing work at home, found a belt buckle of the "CLB" (area between the Basse & Armentières.

Is this type of badge in correspondence with the first war?

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Old 12-06-17, 12:02 PM
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Michel,
Your badge would have came from England as the CLB was a youth organisation of the Church of England. Your friends CLB belt buckle may have been carried to France by a soldier who was a former member of the CLB as a trouser belt? If your Dublin Police badge was a King's crown it may have been worn by a member of either the Dublin Metropolitan Police or the Royal Irish Constabulary. I believe that members of both forces volunteered to fight in France when there was troop shortages during WW1.
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Old 12-06-17, 08:12 PM
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Good evening

I will check with my friend if it is possible to make me a picture of the belt buckle of the CLB.

My cap Badge is from the Royal Irish Constabulary.
He owns the King's crown.
I made a post there.

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