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Old 26-03-15, 10:08 AM
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Gentlemen,
I bought this locally today, whilst I'm happy with it, I've often wondered why there were so many differing badges, on blades, on sliders and on lugs, brass and bronze for other ranks and so on, yes, I know there were worn for quite a long time, but, the three regiments were certainly not huge ones.
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Old 26-03-15, 02:26 PM
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2LG were my grandfathers regiment. It looks fine to me. Lifeguards took to the use of a badge late-and this badge ceased to be used in the early 1920's, so not worn for long. I understand some ORs badges started life with blades for officers and had the fittings altered. Regards, Paul.

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Old 26-03-15, 03:25 PM
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Frank,
yes a nice genuine example IMO. These would have been worn probably as late as 1928, possibly longer. As despite what is written in some reference books, on merger the Squadrons continued to wear their original badges and there was NOT a 1&2 LG badge worn by OR's .

It was not until c.1928 that the 1st and 2nd Life Guards accepted the fact that the merger in 1922 was a permanent arrangement and a generic cap badge was produced!

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Old 26-03-15, 03:42 PM
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Those are all excellent points, the wearing of such badges in undress by the LG was very late in comparison with other regiments. Throughout the 1890s they wore instead shoulder titles, complete with number.
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Old 26-03-15, 07:52 PM
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According to the ACD HC badges were "bronzed" ie treated with a sort of brownish patina, rather like some yeomanry badges. I don't know how long this lasted.
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According to the ACD HC badges were "bronzed" ie treated with a sort of brownish patina, rather like some yeomanry badges. I don't know how long this lasted.
Julian,
it would be interesting to see the content of that particular ADC entry? The HC badges were S/G & En for the post 1920 Officers and WO's badges and Gm for OR's, I do have an OSD finish HC badge but this is sat in my dubious box!

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Old 03-04-15, 08:20 AM
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Hello Paul,
Officers wore die cast bronze badges with blades on their service dress, the rank and file wore die struck badges in brass, on occasion, with a bronze finish, on blades, on lugs and of course on sliders, I've never really understood why this was.
Did your grandfather serve after the Great War or actually in it and if so, did he survive it?
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2LG were my grandfathers regiment. It looks fine to me. Lifeguards took to the use of a badge late-and this badge ceased to be used in the early 1920's, so not worn for long. I understand some ORs badges started life with blades for officers and had the fittings altered. Regards, Paul.
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Late reply- enlisted at 18 mid 1918, trade given as timber hauler-Windsor Forest- did not go overseas- discharged 1921 I think. Regards, Paul.
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Hello Paul,
Officers wore die cast bronze badges with blades on their service dress, the rank and file wore die struck badges in brass, on occasion, with a bronze finish, on blades, on lugs and of course on sliders, I've never really understood why this was.
Frank,
I'm sceptical that there were any genuine "lugged" 1LG, 2LG or RHG OR's cap badges? There are definitely genuine badges locally converted from blades to sliders, probably for OR use, However for the period of wear the slider would be the regulation fitting for officially manufactured badges!

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Old 09-10-15, 06:58 AM
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I quite agree and I'm pretty sure that I certainly don't have anything on lugs in my collection anyway, but, I have seen the odd badge that appears to be original, that did have lugs, one assumes they were worn, but, almost every lugged badge that I see these days has no void on the right of the V in the GvR and are clearly spurious.

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Old 09-10-15, 07:04 AM
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Frank,
I've yet to see a genuine lugged GvR to any of the three regiments?

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Old 09-10-15, 07:12 AM
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Hello Andy,
I tend not to even look at them if they have lugs these days, notwithstanding, I am sure that I have encountered to odd example in the past, of course, whether or not the lugs were actually original to the badge in question, is another matter altogether.
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I Have a GVR Second Life Guards badge which has had me confused.
It has lugs and the hanging V, it is slightly bigger than a OR cap badge, I show a picture of it next to a First Life Guards badge.
I appreciate your opinions.

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Old 09-10-15, 10:35 AM
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Malc,
I've seen a lot of these, the very flat crown and exagerated bevel to rim along with the flatish reverse are not good signs IMO! The Birmingham Mint badges are very similar

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