Who Did This?

[Jelly Terror]

Unfortunately (and this is not a swipe at you or your badge, Alan) what cannot be ruled out is the possibility of your badge originally having been a legitimate bi-metal badge that has been blackened in order to deceive.

This scenario must be taken into account with such examples.

JT

[Alan O]

Exactly the problem with blackened badges when trying to date them. There exist 2 patterns of bb regular pattern badges post WW1 which have been attributed to TF Bns. I am thinking of the BB post 1920 Queens sheep on a torse that is featured on the Regtl Musem website and also a blackened brass South Lancs with Egypt scroll - the former may have nothing to do with the Tf Bn and the latter may just be a 1916 economy.

[Jelly Terror]

Originally Posted by KLR

Yes, of course it would be made from a different die. We pointed this out in the MHS Bull article on 1st WW badges. There are a number of cases of BB badges being "cleaned" and passed off as 1916 "all GM" badges.
A minor correction - the 5th Bn King's Regt were given a new issued badge on 26-04-1921, Pattern 3510/1921 which was all WM !

Julian,

That's interesting. Worth exploring further perhaps.

I may be wrong, but I'd assume a blackened 5th Bn. badge would be of greater interest, historical and financial value than would an identical example in all-G/M. In my experience, the former is a rarer beast than the latter, and therefore possibly more sought after generally. This makes sense to me, but may not actually be the case.

I can only wonder why anyone would go to the trouble of reversing the blackening process of such a badge, for the purpose of presenting it as, what some might consider, an inferior beast?

That said, I have probably missed something obvious again [braces for potential cringe].

[Alan O]

In Gaylor's list he includes Kings Liverpool all brass. No such thing but worn bb TF badge might be mistaken for such a thing.

[Jelly Terror]

Originally Posted by Alan O

In Gaylor's list he includes Kings Liverpool all brass. No such thing but worn bb TF badge might be mistaken for such a thing.

Agreed; mistaken identity (as per this example cited in Julian and David’s article) Sherwood Rangers Yeomanry Hussars (KK1410), mistaken for an all-G/M OBLI badge.

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