Liverpool scottish - British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum

tommy t bag · #1 10-09-11, 10:13 PM

hi,i bought this badge a few years ago.Is it a good or is it a repro?Ive come across two part badge recently wh look better quality than this one.Thats whats making me think it maybee a repro.tommy t bag

pressguard · #2 10-09-11, 11:08 PM

Badge is spot on single strike issue, nothing wrong with it

Peter Brydon · #3 11-09-11, 06:47 AM

In a number of badge books the two piece example of this badge is described as the Sergeants issue. If the was the case the battalion would have consisted of mainly sergeants and officers.

In a letter to me dated 25/9/01 the regimental hon curator describes the one piece badge as a " wartime economy pattern"

P.B.

Nice to see Pressguard posting again

KLR · #4 11-09-11, 06:47 AM

The one piece versions are post 1st WW, The idea that two piece versions are for NCO's is nonsense, it is a chronological issue.

You beat me to it 8th, but I don't believe that this version was a wartime one.

2747andy · #5 11-09-11, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by KLR

The one piece versions are post 1st WW, The idea that two piece versions are for NCO's is nonsense, it is a chronological issue.

You beat me to it 8th, but I don't believe that this version was a wartime one.

Peter and Julian,

not wanting to tread on the toes of the Forums KLR gurus.. all I would say is the splayed foot type wire loops/lugs are an early type of fitting and are often found on WW1 era badges and earlier!

Best regards

Andy

P.s. I agree that Tommy's badge is 100% genuine!

Peter Brydon · #6 11-09-11, 07:27 AM

Julian,

I will ask D.R. why he thinks the single piece badge is an economy issue next time I am in touch with him and will let you know what he says.

Peter

tommy t bag · #7 14-09-11, 05:21 PM

hi,as you like KLR stuff.Heres a 1917 dated vernier compass ive got.its regimented to the 8th klr and belonged to captain j.h riley.Ive found a medal index relating to him on the national archives.is it a rare piece?tommy t bag

CftD · #8 14-09-11, 05:31 PM

Can someone enlighten me regarding the difference between 'footed' and 'splayed' lugs on cap badges ? Many thanks in anticipation of enlightenment. David

Peter Brydon · #9 14-09-11, 05:51 PM

This very nice compass is a Liverpool Irish item and therefore 8th (Irish ) Bn T.F, not 8th ( Scotttish ) V.B., there is no Riley in the list of officers Commssioned into the Liverpool Scottish 1900- 1962 which I have.

There is a 2nd Lt.J.H. Riley with the 8th (Irish) Bn in the Army List September 1915.

P.B.

Sorry tommy, I may have misunderstood I thought as you posted this on the thread for the Liverpool Scottish badge you may have thought it was another Liverpool Scottish item.

2747andy · #10 14-09-11, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Counsel for the Defence

Can someone enlighten me regarding the difference between 'footed' and 'splayed' lugs on cap badges ? Many thanks in anticipation of enlightenment. David

David,
as it was me who used the term I had best explain why I used it! "Splayed" as in "turned out" as opposed to the "D" shaped and more common "Foot" found on lug fittings! It is a term I use and not from any reference, however I feel it is self explanatory and most people seem to get the gist! Images are self explanatory methinks?

Best regards

Andy

tommy t bag · #11 15-09-11, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 8thfoot

This very nice compass is a Liverpool Irish item and therefore 8th (Irish ) Bn T.F, not 8th ( Scotttish ) V.B., there is no Riley in the list of officers Commssioned into the Liverpool Scottish 1900- 1962 which I have.

There is a 2nd Lt.J.H. Riley with the 8th (Irish) Bn in the Army List September 1915.

P.B.

Sorry tommy, I may have misunderstood I thought as you posted this on the thread for the Liverpool Scottish badge you may have thought it was another Liverpool Scottish item.

Hi,i did realize the compass was liverpool irish.Just wanted to show it to you because you seem interested in liverpool regiment stuff.tommy t bag

Peter Brydon · #12 15-09-11, 05:37 PM

Tommy,

Thanks for posting the pictures of the very nice item.

Peter

P.S. the thing that I do find interesting is that the Irish at least at the start of WW1 had blackened Sam Browne belts with white metal fittings ( as a rifle battalion ) and I would have expected that the compass case would have had a black case,but obviously that was not the case ( if you will pardon the pun )