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Badges for Essex Rifle Volunteer units
The thorny question of badges for RVs again...
I'm trying to work out a list of what headdress badges are known for Essex Rifle Volunteer units. There were 24 units but I doubt that many had unique badges and probably wore the generic badge. I've also seen quite a few pouch badges but I'm only collecting headdress so can discount those. The ones I have seen so far, either from KK or photos / physical examples are: - Essex Rifle Volunteer Corps, 1st Bn Helmet Plate - Essex RVC, KK1807 - 4th RV - 6th Essex RV shako plate - 9th (Silvertown) RV shako plate - 19th (Epping) RV Are there any other headdress items that I can add to that list? Many thanks, Michael |
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I can not contribute any knowledge about which badges were worn by which units, but I see a source of possible confusion because you have no dates (years) added to your list and it might be that other have different ideas then you about some of the units you do not fully identify.
E.g. The 4th Essex RVC of 1859 on consolidation in 1880 became 'A' and 'B' companies of 4th Essex RVC and that was renumbered 2nd Essex RVC later the same year. (and there was another 2nd Essex RVC 1859-1880) (and there was another 4th Essex RVC 1880-1883, see below) The 9th Essex RVC of 1860 was not touched by the general consolidation of 1880, but it was renumbered 4th Essex RVC later in the same year. (and there was the above mention 4th Essex RVC from 1859-1880) (and no, there was no 9th Essex RCV after 1880) I hope you understand my concern.
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Good whatever time it is Michael.
Hope all is ticketyboo. I'll PM you later today or tomorrow and try and link you into my pictures of Essex RV headdress badges. Regards Brian |
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Henk, point taken. Let me go about it the other way then and show the badges I have or have seen and validate the date ranges that I believe apply? And from there perhaps other examples can then be added to go on the list.
Having tried to unpick the evolutions from Westlake this morning there are some very short lived units e.g. 14th Manningtree and 22nd Waltham Abbey where I could assume the generic badge was worn - but then Westlake points out that there are badges for some units that never ever got formal approval! So seeking to establish what is known for sure. This is all new ground for me! |
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First up, Silvertown RV.
Fatherofthree has an example in his album. http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...ictureid=68271 Based on that I believe this is the renumbered 9th RV now 4th RV in existence 1880 - 1883 (or could it be as the 9th 1860 - 1880? or both?) Last edited by Expat Yeoman; 07-01-18 at 06:40 AM. |
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Essex Rifles 1st Bn Helmet Plate - rifle volunteers or something else (militia)?
No idea on this one. There's also an Essex Rifle Volunteer Corps HP, same design apart from the strap wording and it has a "1" above the bugle. Last edited by Expat Yeoman; 07-01-18 at 06:44 AM. |
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6th RV (Colchester).
Believe this to be the badge worn 1860 - 80. |
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19th (Epping) RV which I believe was 1860 - 72.
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This could also be a 19th Middlesex RV shako badge. There’s an illustration in Ron Handley's book The First London’s.
Last edited by Keith Blakeman; 07-01-18 at 04:45 PM. |
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The Rifle Volunteers from 1859 to 1880 It is a PDF. Scroll down to 12. Essex or use the search function of your PDF reader. Maybe it helps.
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Henk Interested in the lineage of the unit your badge represents? Try: Regimental lineages |
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I dont know if this might be of interest:
https://www.dnw.co.uk/auction-archiv...&lot_id=265643 P.B.
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My example came from a respected Essex collector (with a son who used to work at the Essex Regt museum..) so I'm pretty sure it is an Essex one, but am intrigued that the same pattern could be used by another unit too. |
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Thanks Henk for your link, that is very helpful.
I had tried to do something similar from Westlake but as a graphic - have attached, hopefully got it there or there abouts! |
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