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Old 26-03-17, 11:35 PM
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Default Pair XIX brass titles

Hi,

These brass titles measure 34 mm by 14 mm.

I was wondering if they were worn either as collar or shoulder titles ?

Any help in identifying them would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks,

Invest
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Old 27-03-17, 05:34 AM
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They look similar to insignia worn on German army shoulder straps to designate certain units.

From Wikipedia:

During World War II, Germany had a system of military districts (German: Wehrkreis) to relieve field commanders of as much administrative work as possible and to provide a regular flow of trained recruits and supplies to the Field Army. The Field Army (Oberbefehlshaber des Heeres) was separate from the Home Command (Heimatkriegsgebiet). The responsibilities of training, conscription, supply, and equipment were entrusted to the Home Command.[1]

In peacetime, the Wehrkreis was the home to the army corps of the same number and all subordinate units of that formation. The corps commander also commanded the Wehrkreis. Command of the Wehrkreis passed to the corps second-in-command at the outbreak of war.

Before the start of the war, there were also four Motorized Army Corps (in effect, staffs to control the training of Panzer and Light Panzer formations). These had no corresponding military districts, but were served (as regards conscription and supplies) by the districts in which Corps headquarters or subordinate formations had their Home Garrison Stations. These Corps were:
XIV. Armeekorps (mot.) ("XIV Army Corps (Motorized)")
XV. Armeekorps (mot.) ("XV Army Corps (Motorized)")
XVI. Armeekorps (mot.) ("XVI Army Corps (Motorized)")
XIX. Armeekorps ("XIX Army Corps")

Each Wehrkreis controlled Wehrbezirk Hauptquartier ("District Army Headquarters") and Wehrersatzbezirk Hauptquartier ("Alternate District Army Headquarters"). (These Bezirk HQs corresponded to civil political districts falling within the area of the Wehrkreis.) These in turn controlled Bereich Hauptsitze ("Area headquarters"), which controlled Unterregion Hauptsitze ("Sub-region Headquarters").

At the start of the war, there were fifteen Districts in Germany. During the war, four were added, and some Districts had territory added to them from other countries conquered by Germany.

I have these two which represent the 13th (Nuremburg) & the 18th (Salzburg) military districts c WWII, they are a slightly different design to yours.
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Old 28-03-17, 11:54 AM
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Hi Leigh,

Many thanks for your input, it's greatly appreciated.

Cheers,

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Old 28-03-17, 03:29 PM
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There have been at least two pairs of similar insignia on eBay recently (failed to sell yesterday & today), different numerals to yours, solid rather than hollow backed and with a grained surface.
The seller thought they may be collar insignia.
I don't know enough about these insignia to properly identify them I'm afraid.
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