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Old 23-03-17, 11:39 AM
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Hi All
I just thought I'd share this latest acquisition, a BR officer's badge with marks for Ludlow & Co. According to Dean's (mooke07) excellent album of officer badges, this is the scarce 1902-1905 version lacking the battle honours for the Anglo-Boer War of 1899-1902.
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Old 23-03-17, 11:50 AM
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Goodness me Alex that is a beauty. Thanks for sharing such a quality badge, splendid craftsmanship. Period is spot on, cheers Dean.
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Old 23-03-17, 12:19 PM
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Alex,
A lovely badge,
I don't think the L&Co maker mark is Ludlow and is likely to be a private commision by another silversmith.
Paul
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Old 23-03-17, 12:27 PM
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Once again this is a staff badge and would have been worn by the regiment's warrant officers too (the previous version by 'staff sergeants').
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Old 23-03-17, 02:43 PM
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Alex,
A lovely badge,
I don't think the L&Co maker mark is Ludlow and is likely to be a private commision by another silversmith.
Paul
Thanks Paul, when I get a chance I'll have to investigate. I just assumed it'd be Ludlow. Off to have a beer and make dinner right now though...
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Old 23-03-17, 02:48 PM
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Hello,

The mark on the rear is not the maker, but the retailer.

Quite posh really as its Liberty & Co. London.

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Old 23-03-17, 03:12 PM
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Thanks Paul, when I get a chance I'll have to investigate. I just assumed it'd be Ludlow. Off to have a beer and make dinner right now though...
Hi Alex,
Ludlow as a name only came into being in 1933 previously being Lodski B & Sons/Lodski & Sons.
There are a couple of candidates for the Retailer/Maker mark and as Simon points out Liberty used a similar mark, without any Assay marks it will be difficult to identify
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Old 23-03-17, 04:25 PM
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I have two Royal Sussex regiment officers badges in my officers badge album.One is marked "Ludlow Sterling" & the other "L&Co".I never gave it a second thought that L&Co was a retailer.I always assumed that "L&Co" was Ludlows.Thanks for the info.
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Old 23-03-17, 05:04 PM
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Ludlow & L&Co
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Old 23-03-17, 05:49 PM
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It is a post 1905 badge with the battle honours for the Anglo-Boer War of 1899-1902 at the 3 o clock position, a makers variation found on some KC officers badges, and also adapted for OR's badges post War.
I bet your badge is roughly 46 x 53 mm, the no SA battle honour badge would be the same size as the QVC badge at 36 x 42 mm.
Lovely badge nonetheless.

Pre 1905 no South Africa battle honours:
12 o clock: Pyrenees, Nivelle, Nive
3 o clock: Peninsula, Orthes, Alma
6 o clock: Lucknow, Sevastopol, Inkerman
9 o clock: Albuhera, Vittoria

Post 1905 OR's with South Africa battle honours:
12 o clock: Pyrenees, Nivelle, Nive, Alma
3 o clock: Peninsula, Sevastopol, Inkerman, Orthes
6 o clock: Relief of Ladysmith South Africa 1899-1902
9 o clock: Albuhera, Vittoria, Lucknow

Some KC officers and all post WWII:
12 o clock: top: Peninsula, Albuhera, Vittoria, Pyrenees
3 o clock: Relief of Ladysmith, South Africa, 1899-1902
6 o clock: Nive, Nivelle, Orthes
9 o clock: Lucknow, Sevastopol, Inkerman, Alma

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Old 24-03-17, 05:52 AM
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Hi Thomas
Thanks. I just assumed they'd be on the 6 o'clock spot and didn't look further. Just goes to show...duh.
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Alex
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Old 24-03-17, 06:01 AM
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Hi Thomas
Thanks. I just assumed they'd be on the 6 o'clock spot and didn't look further. Just goes to show...duh.
Cheers,
Alex
Alex,
Your not the only one
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Old 24-03-17, 06:14 PM
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What about its size?

Rgds, Thomas.
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Old 25-03-17, 05:30 AM
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Hi Thomas
Yes, you were quite right, it is the bigger badge about 46 x 53mm though I haven't measured it exactly. About the same size as the O/Rs badges.
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Old 25-03-17, 08:26 PM
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If yours would have been the smaller size it would be quite the anomaly, hence my question. I suppose that leaves at least one more badge for you to find then...

Rgds, Thomas.
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