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Yes, there is no doubt that the cartouche badge was in form and function the conception of later head dress badges right through to today.
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Am I right in thinking that the shako portrayed is a Belgic rather than a stove pipe? In which case the scene will be set at Waterloo. |
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You mean as a design or device on the shako plate rather than as the star "shape" itself as the plate?
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Yes, I believe it is Belgic. Perhaps the cartouche is just meant as debris and detritus, I seem to recall that the Grenadiers of the Imperial Guard did have such a grenade device on their cartouche pouches. I am fairly sure that the British Foot Guards did not. Last edited by Toby Purcell; 25-09-17 at 11:09 AM. |
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The pouch does appear to be "just sitting there", not attached to a belt.
It may be mentioned in the illustration's caption. Edit - the pouch badge would fit French Grenadiers of the line (although the pattern of the pouch was changed from that shown to one with a combined frog in 1813). I'll check re. Imperial Guard. Last edited by leigh kitchen; 25-09-17 at 12:21 PM. |
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Andy
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Seen here Leigh.
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Yes, ta, I was unsure as to whether you were saying the plates were of that pattern or a star-shaped pattern.
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Isn't that the 1st Foot Guards plate pre-Waterloo, Andy? The cypher and garter strap would suggest that. All Foot Guards had cap stars until the Grenade Fired Proper was adopted by the 1st after Waterloo.
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As usual, the knowledge on the forum astounds me!
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The plate I've shown was worn on the False fronted "Waterloo Shako", i think the one you on about is the 1ST Stove-piped Shako. The one with the larger plate.
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Yes, I realised that, Andy, but 1st or 2nd Foot Guards? I think 1st, but you have not confirmed that and this thread is principally about the Coldstream, albeit that we have strayed. Just wish to clarify.
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Yes Toby 1ST, we have strayed a bit.
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Coldstream Guards 1880.
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