date royal marines badge on helmet

[atlante]

Hi !
is it possible to date this enamel badge of royal marines on this "tropical helmet" ?

WW2 ?

I found this with an other white common british ww2 tropical helmet ..the twoo were found in France
best regards

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[RBJ MIlitaria]

A SPOOF BADGE ON A MADE UP PIECE IN MY HUMBLE OPINION

[atlante]

are you sure a spoof badge ?
It's really fine and well made, golden and enamel..
How can you see it?

thanks to tell me evidences.

best regards

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[Paul Spellman]

I think its an attempt at an officers badge but im sure the globe in the centre is meant to be white/metal or silver gilt and the lugs look like they are copper not brass.
Hope this helps

[atlante]

Here exactly same badge and helmet
Spoof too ?

http://en.todocoleccion.net/world-wa...inal~x28722951

[Paddy]

Atlante

As BJ has said above, the general consensus is that this style of badge is a Spoof or fantasy item, it was possibly made for the collectors market. It isn't a copy of an Officer's helmet plate it is more akin to the old Warrant Officer's helmet plate but nonetheless a fake. There is also a Queen's crown version. I have both in my collection but I keep them for reference and from memory I did not pay more than £5 for either. The one you show the link to is also a fake and a very expensive fake at that.

If you go to page 2 of the link I have attached below you will see genuine versions of an Officer's and a Warrant Officer's helmet plate. On the Officer's version the Per Mare Per Terram motto is pierced on a circlet with a garter/buckle at the bottom whereas the Warrant Officer's version has it on just a circlet (not garter/buckle at the bottom) which is why I believe it to be a copy of the Warrant Officer badge and not the Officer badge. Both versions should be gilt, with a blue enamel disc to the rear of the mottoand should have silver globes.

I have also shown pictures of a genuine Officer's helmet plate and the 2 fantasy badges I have.

http://www.rmhistorical.com/images/Helmet%20Plates.pdf

Paddy

[atlante]

It's the top !!

very good photos and explanations !!

thank you very much for your knowledge

atlante

[Paddy]

No problem

Paddy