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Old 05-06-10, 08:12 AM
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is this lincoln imp military or jewelery? i bought it on a hunch, but didnt realise it was pin backed and silver.
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Old 05-06-10, 10:05 AM
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hi all
is this lincoln imp military or jewelery? i bought it on a hunch, but didnt realise it was pin backed and silver.
thanks in advance
bc
bc,
You obviously know its used as an arm badge. It depends on the size as to whether this is one or not. They do come up fairly regularly so would suggest a look through some of the old catalogs to check the size.
I am trying to chase some sizes down (in the Bosley catalogs) at the moment so if I come across one I will let you know.
david

Update: can't find one yet but I am fairly certain the ArmB height is more than this (yours is just over an inch?) - possibly 2" or more.
Will keep looking.

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Old 05-06-10, 01:19 PM
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The 4 Bn Imp is made in gilding metal and is 32mm in height. It has 2 lugs. I have seen a silver officers' version advertised but as yet haven't run to ground photos or anything else confirming this (Apart from Steven Bosley selling one).

The Imp is widely used in Lincolnshire. I've even got a fire iron with it on that belonged to my Grandmother and has nothing to do with the Army. IMO this is jewelery.

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Old 05-06-10, 01:56 PM
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Old 05-06-10, 02:48 PM
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The 4 Bn Imp is made in gilding metal and is 32mm in height. It has 2 lugs. I have seen a silver officers' version advertised but as yet haven't run to ground photos or anything else confirming this (Apart from Steven Bosley selling one).

The Imp is widely used in Lincolnshire. I've even got a fire iron with it on that belonged to my Grandmother and has nothing to do with the Army. IMO this is jewelery.

Stephen.

the silver Imp were made my a jeweller in the 1980s and they were good and he sold fot £25 each

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Old 06-06-10, 10:24 AM
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They are not NCO arm badges as catalogued in a well known badge book. The reason why they are so common is because they were issued to all ranks in Iceland. The manufacturer of the brass badges still remains unknown.

You can read more about them here:

http://www.thelincolnshireregiment.o...orted_az.shtml
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Old 09-06-10, 10:55 PM
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A word of warning to anyone looking for the white metal Lincolnshire Imp badge. I have come across one that looked good in every respect until I looked at it under a magnifying glass. It had tiny pin tip sized bubbles of metal in the creases of the badge. This is a side effect of silicon casting and is caused by the setting silicon rubber containing tiny bubbles of air in it before setting. Then once the badge is cast into the rubber mould the metal fills the tiny voids caused by the bubbles.
Why is this significant? Well heat resistant silicon rubber mouldmaking is a modern process that just wasn't available in WW2 when the badge would have been made.
I'm sorry I don't have any pictures. I returned mine to the dealer who immediately refunded my money.

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They are not NCO arm badges as catalogued in a well known badge book. The reason why they are so common is because they were issued to all ranks in Iceland. The manufacturer of the brass badges still remains unknown.

You can read more about them here:

http://www.thelincolnshireregiment.o...orted_az.shtml

I noticed a while back that the link to the site was down and that it ooks like the site may now be defunct?
I had in the past filed away some screen shots re the Lincoln Imp from that or possibly a successor site:


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Well done Leigh.

So many sites linked on here over the years must now be defunct good that this one can retain its usefulness.
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These "Badge Notes by Gary Gibbs" don't add a lot re. the imps but also mention a 1st Battalion helmet badge cloth imp and copper colored brass metal badge, possibly a pugeree badge.
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